Quick soup ideas and late late arriving winter
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09/10 late fall/winter/spring order experiences
Comments (122)got my big order from Burnt Ridge today. Didn't take pictures, sorry, but I was racing to plant before the rain... Here's the skinny: 2 figs, Italian Honey and Desert King. Both were well rooted, with IH having much finer roots but still plenty of them. Both plants were about 14-16 inches tall once potted. The top 4-5 inches of DK was moldy, so I snipped it off. I did a little root-pruning on DK before potting up it as well. Jumbo HArdy Kiwi was potted and 6 feet tall (climbing a bamboo pole. It looks great, but because much of the growth is all twined around the pole I will be cutting it back severely. This was one of only 3 plants which were leaved out (the other 2 are partially evergreen) Smokey SErviceberry. Looks great on top, one root was wrapped around the main tap-root going down. I cut the girdling root off and planted it. I have no doubts it will be fine (it was about 2 feet tall) Sugar Cane Jujube: Awesome roots. Thick 18 inches long just the roots! Top growth is ok, with the main stem and all top growth turning at a 120 degree angle about 18 inches above the ground. It will be getting pruned to retrain its top. I potted it up for the time as its final place is not yet ready (I have a tree to remove) Yellowhorn: great plant, 20 inches long above the ground. nice fat buds ready to break. Crandall currant. There must be somethign about these plants because I've ordered them from 3 different places and the roots always seem sparse. I would have had trouble telling which way to plant it had there not been buds emerging from the top. root looks like a single taproot with a right angle about 6 inches below the ground. Kokuso and Weeping mulberries. The weeper is for a friend at work. It looks good, except there are not yet any weeping branches. The stem is interestingly twisted and I think she'll love it. It is a whip about 2 feet long. The roots are orange yellow and healthy off the main tap. Kokusa is smaller, 16 inches, a whip also with similar roots. I did a little root trimming on this one as a couple roots seem to have dessicated from the trip. Empress tree: (no boos or hisses, my mother in law wanted one) potted and very small. 3 leaves emerging from a 1 inch stem. It will be fine, I've seen these things take off. Trifoliate Orange: (bought 2 as gifts for a couple gardener friends who were interested in it). great looking healthy plants with leaves (evergreen as mentioned previously). Hard to pot for my friends as they are pretty pokey plants. Each plant is easily 16 inches tall with one of them having 2 main stems and the other pitchforks into three. I ordered a fir tree that came potted and looks fine and a dewberry they were unable to supply. Not the best order I've gotten from them, but I'm still quite happy with it. I probably would have wanted to look for another jujube (given the strange shape the one I received has) but in time I'm sure it will be fine and I know I can correct the stem problem. The fig mold was likely unavoidable given that the package travelled for 7 days to get here. I'd rather have 4 inches of one plant to trim back than have plants whose roots were too dry or whose survival was questionable. Had they let me know the were unable to supply the dewberry I would have replaced it on the order (Lock Ness) and ordered the Dewberry elsewhere. Now I just have to think of where to plant some of the plants I potted until I could place them. ~Chills...See MoreToo late to put down a winterizer fertilizer?
Comments (5)Mike, as with some others, people try to associate the weather to how their gardens grow, including how the grass grows. All our plants grow in soil....not in the air. While the ambient weather in any local environment has a bearing on how our plants grow, its because the weather improves over long periods which can then, affect soil temperature. Because you have a warm spell in January...let's call it, the January thaw...when temperatures might go up and up...and make us believe spring is around the corner. Unfortunately, the deep freeze returns and we are reminded that Ma Nature can be cruel to us gardeners. You wouldn't think to go out and plant spring plants during this spell...then it follows we shouldn't plant when a warm day arrives in the fall when its just as likely to fall into the deep freeze...snow is always around the corner. Plants don't grow in a day...so a nice 70's 80's even, does not suggest that the next day might be in the 40's or lower. Down the road is how we must assume how temperatures behave and for that reason, we do let our plants go into dormancy...and while our lawns are not usually thought to go into dormancy, they nevertheless go to sleep until awakened in the spring with multiple days of warmth to encourage the soil temperature goes up and makes grass seed, grass growing, viable. Dont' think today....nor tomorrow, think next week, next month...and you wont confuse soil temperature with air temperature....See MoreLate Fall Vs. Winter Pruning on Various Perennials
Comments (6)I don't like cutting things back too hard in fall, if they stay green or have the good foliage, like grasses. Many of your perrenials will brown up with a couple frosts and regular cold, like peonies and the sedum, salvia, lily stems. Then you can cut them down. I leave some stalk height as markers, my garden is quite thickly planted. Morning glory is an annual, I would pull it down whenever I got tired of it, green or dried, for neater winter appearance. Cut it off at the ground. Clematis is another climer, but a perennial. I leave alone in fall, mine stay green most of the winter, give birds shelter. They get trimmed in early spring, down to a couple feet tall. Clematis do better if pruned heavily, and I want them cut before the birds return to nest in them. Lovely flowers in many shapes colors. Three types, early, mid, late flowering, to bloom at different times of the season. They might be something you would like too. I tried leaving my dried sedum for winter interest, just didn't like it in winter so I cut it about halfway thru. Just was ugly. My grasses were pretty nice over winter, but I cut them back VERY early, late Feb or March to prevent the leaves and mess you mentioned. I think the big grasses need a bit of cover to protect the clump over the coldest times. I wouldn't cut grasses in fall, but that is me. Lavendar needs to be left alone for winter. You will probably get some die-back anyway, don't want to kill the plant with no branches to spare. You should trim it in spring, just when the new growth is starting, to know what is alive. Bell flower I just cut the flower spikes off, same with Liantris, by which I think you mean for the "roman candle flower". Leaves help me locate them for spring work. Not sure what goosenecks are, Gooseneck Loostrife? I would cut that down after it dries out when frosted. The other plants I am not recognizing from descriptions. Sage the herb, is tough, will come thru winter, but the woody stems don't need trimming back. I killed mine doing that. Just trim it on the ends, new growth, next spring for neater appearance. You can save your yard leaves, Oak are the best. Don't EVER burn them. Run the mower thru them to shred them up, use that for mulch over winter. Returns a lot of nutrients to soil, makes a nice mulch and protective layer. I would fertilize in spring, not now because plants would grow better, get winter damaged in cold. If you have extra leaves, you can bag them up for spring use or start a small compost pile for next year. Even just mowing the leaves onto the lawn, is better for the lawn, than wasting the leaves. Like a free fertilizer treatment. Small pieces of leaves don't pack or clot up like full sized leaves. I would not save Black Walnut or Butternut leaves since they contain jugalone, poison for some plants. I don't think I would do much shrub trimming now. Hollies get wind-burned over winter, dry out in cold wind. The small evergreens might benefit from a little shaping, but not massive trimming so late in season. I would trim and shape both of these in early spring, April. That time would let you remove the winter damages, not be hard on newly awakened plant. You might want to start a Journal, keep track of stuff for yourself. See what works or doesn't, for YOU, plants you have. My mom loves to have everything tidied up for fall, makes it easier for her in spring. Looks kind of stark to me, in late fall. I have some fall and spring work because I have different plants, different location in the state. Journal can be very simple, some dates, what worked or failed, just a tracking device for your notes. Easier than trying to keep it in your head. Good luck, sounds like your garden is working well for you. Kale are great winter plants, along with pansies, love the colder temps. An idea for the bare spots of fall and winter....See MoreLate winter, early spring mantle using what I had on hand
Comments (25)Thanks, Joann! I'll trade my yard for his woodworking skills! I'm in Maine, next to our largest city of Portland. They refer to us as the southern coastal area. Today, we're getting a walloping of snow. I bought several new huecheras last year, and I think Purple Palace was one of them. I discovered a local grower who grew all of this own perennials in his incredible property. Sadly, it was his last year, as he was finding that the Home Depots and Lowes were taking so much business away. I have several huecheras, including Lime Rickey and a Caramel one I bought last year that has rusty orangey leaves. I'll be looking for them all when this darn snow finally melts. In this shot from last August you can see the Caramel and a Lemon Frost lamium in that front border. I also LOVE pulmonaria, and have several of them also. My trees have grown so that what used to be sun gardens are now mostly shade. The front yard gets sun in the later afternoon. This is at the end of my driveway turnaround. I have many beautiful hosta and I love Solomon's Seal....See Moresleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
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