Lisa, I don't know if there is a rose that can be happy in such draconian conditions as you describe. Roses just aren't that crazy about morning shade and hot afternoon sun. As far as size goes, La France is about 3 feet wide and can be up to 5 feet tall although mine never reached that height. It succumbed to canker but I just planted a new band today. It does tolerate heat well. Siren's Keep is such a gorgeous color. I'd love to have that color in my garden.

Thank you, desertgarden. That picture sure reminds me why I absolutely HAD to have this rose. I’m sorry to say that I haven’t seen a bloom like that since February or March. Actually, I haven’t seen any blooms since then at all. I should have listened. My Siren’s Keep is obviously VERY unhappy in a pot, enormous or not. So desertgarden, you said yours is still young. May I ask just how young, and what its size is now? Thanks, Lisa

We must have been writing at the same time, Ingrid. Actually it must not be quite as hot a spot as I’ve made it sound. There is no hardscaping to reflect heat, and I have a few other happy roses there already. ‘Queen of Sweden’ just can’t handle it. The blooms are small and blow within a day during the summer. I had hoped that QoS would be wonderful during this time of year, but I’m not impressed. There are very few blooms, and they’re still small and blah. They do hold together for a couple of days on the bush now, but I’m not crazy about the bush either. The leaves have an almost gray cast to the green, if that makes sense. I don’t give up on a rose easily, but my QoS is about to be dethroned.

‘October Moon’, another Paul Barden rose, is next to QoS, and doesn’t mind the shade until 10 or 11 and then full hot sun. I even have the HT ‘Princess Charlene de Monaco’ on the other side of ‘October Moon’. Her blooms do fade in the summertime, but otherwise she definitely does just fine, thriving. All I have to do is provide enough water. My soil is rich clay, and it retains the water very well. Even though Ingrid’s home is only about 10 miles from mine, my “scorching hot” isn’t quite the Hades that hers is in summer. It’s my lower altitude and closer proximity to the ocean, I think.

About the only thing I liked about QoS was her tall and narrow form. I don’t expect that from Siren’s Keep, but I really do need to be sure it won’t get wide and sprawling before planting it there. Otherwise, here I come ‘La France’! Lisa

My S.K. is approximately 2 years old. It is a little more than 2' tall, and thus far has a narrow, upright growth habit.

Does anyone have an idea on how big Siren's Keep will become at maturity? Ant experience in SoCal would be welcome.