Japanese Milk Bread
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Comments (15)I made a double batch because there was enough tangzhong to do so and because I wanted to test how the bread 'kept'. Also, I cut back on the amt. of sugar when I made the bread. The tangzhong definitely helps in keeping the bread fresh longer. Mine is still relatively soft over 24 hrs. after baking which impresses me enough to try adapting this technique to some of my other bread recipes. My loaves had a very nice crispy crust fresh out of the oven. Note that I'm baking in a toaster oven and the top of the loaves were very close to the top of the oven. Maybe it's just me (or the flour I used--Pillsbury Bread flour, but I thought the bread was lacking a bit in flavor. OR, since the recipe doesn't call for any salt & I didn't add any, perhaps that's part of the problem...salt helps to rein in the action of yeast and I noticed that the dough was really spunky and rose quite fast. No doubt, retarding the rise would help a lot to develop flavor. Nice crumb but the bread has a little different 'mouth feel'. Kinda' weird but not necessarily disagreeable. Agree that it would make great rolls which is what I'll likely do with the recipe next time, along w/ a bit of salt & at least an overnight ferment in the refrigerator to help develop more flavor. All in all, the recipe is worth trying. Thank you for sharing it with us, Pat....See MoreBread bakers - Have you heard of Japanese milk bread?
Comments (10)jasdip: You can leave the milk powder out. According to my research the milk powder is for "fragrance" and most of the recipe translated from Japanese and Chinese say "optional". I buy small tin of whole milk powder from Wallyworld for about $1.50 (brand NIDO) - I keep in freezer. We use the NIDO to make DIY evaporated milk because we can not use carageenan (sp??) which is in canned evap milk. I've become addicted to using this water roux/tang zhong method. I think the folks who make the Challah at our local grocer must use this method because the bread has about the same texture. Cheers, DL...See MoreSweet Rolls - How do I do it?
Comments (20)ci_lantro No. You owe NO apology. I'm not offended at all by what you wrote. I'm happy. I'm happy you're there and not here. I meant that literally. I didn't want to start a debate lest someone reading be offended. The climates are extremely horrible here, right now. Financial, political and literal climate. With the price of oil really low people in the industry are running away as fast as they can. The price of oil being really low means our economy is deplorable. Meanwhile, the governor banned the right of cities to raise minimum wage. She banned the right of cities to ban fracking and running all over the place with corporate money in blatant shameful ways while crushing our education system. Quakes, quakes, quakes. And I live in the oil pipeline hub. People are sensitive about this subject and that's why I wasn't sufficiently clear in the original post. I didn't want to bring it up. lol In short, I wish I could leave. Can I come stay with you? LOL Just kidding. But I'd give anything to leave under decent circumstances. I won't have a home standing in a few years. Insurance won't cover damage from these quakes. Talk about depressing: I have 1/2" cracks in my sheet rock and all the other problems with finish on a mildly quake-damaged home, but the quakes are so numerous making repairs - even if we could afford them - is not cost prohibitive. 2 and 3 times a day. It gets on a roll. In generally, there is 1 good-sized "I feel it" quakes a week but every now and then it's non stop with sleepless nights up to 15 times within 24 hours. Like many homes in this area, the origin portions of the house is from the 1930s. Def not quake proof. The old historic buildings downtown have fallen to the ground from the quakes and the city is cleaning them up ... at our expense. The oil natives in the state are pitted against those who believe in man-made quakes and the science that backs it. I understand. Many here have had family in oil for generations and the reality ... well, it's just hard for them. I've never been in oil, but I'm not stupid about its importance to our economy even if the price of gas is cheap. The rest of us need homes and most of us never recovered beyond the 2000 tech bubble. We moved to rural areas, like this, to live within our means. In short, I was being blunt and literal on my post. It's only a sore spot because it is really bad right now, but not because you wrote anything offensive. If I'm not careful, I start to feel hopeless. So, the first thought I had to your post was, literally, thank god she's not here....See MoreReport on rustic bread, sour milk and Hanukkah dinner
Comments (2)Yeah but I'm not sure how much or what kind of bacteria is in modern pasteurized milk. Has to be whatever it picks up from the kitchen counter and fridge. Not sure how that bacteria reacts with milk. That's why I added the lemon juice. Edited to add this fascinating link which details some of the microbiology of pasteurized and ultra pasteurized milk. Quote: "Microorganisms that survive pasteurisation or contaminate the milk subsequently can give rise to off-flavour development. Growth of psychrotrophs (Pseudomonas spp.) gives rise to unclean or putrid flavours. B. cereus, a bacterium traditionally associated with the formation of bitty cream, also causes unclean flavour. Proteolytic enzymes such as plasmin cause bitter flavour in UHT, while lipolytic enzymes such as heat resistant microbial lipases cause rancidity in pasteurised milk – the secretion of the latter enzymes taking place as a result of microbial growth during pre-pasteurisation storage." https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/food-science/pasteurized-milk...See MoreJasdip
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