Susie, I have searched & can't find any Avast on it. I also went into the folders. I just did a search on this one & there is quite a bit Norton leftover on it still. AVG is on too & was working when I stopped using this one. I hope to have another one Monday if everyone would just get well..I don't drive (never learned) & all my rides are truly sick. Cat, I think I will try the XP tonite. I do know it has a LOT of problems & need to be started over..it is not worth spending $150 to do that. Nite before last I was trying to fill out a form to order something.. it took over 30 minutes to do it.. The cursor kept freezing plus it wouldn't scroll without freezing. Some on here can vouch for all the problems I have had. If I can get it running I can at least check to see if there is anything else I want saved. I tried to keep things saved as I knew this day was coming. Yes I know now the APC is probably why it wouldn't turn on but I don't think that had anything to do with the other problems. The XP took about 20 minutes to reboot.. this 98 is very fast doing it. Thanks, Dar

Jane you are correct W7 is a stand alone, but the foundation is Vista architecture. If someone wishes to avoid Vista that is their choice. I do anticipate anyone planning to upgrade a current XP system to Win7 to have some concerns. At this time unless dictated by some outside need I wouldn't replace XP with Vista either. However, it is my personal opinion that with the release of W7 users should be preparing to let XP ride off into the sunset. Once you get too far behind knowledge and experience wise its tough to catch up. I speak from experience as I loved Win98 and hung on to it for as long as I could personally. I obtained my hands on experience, though limited by the IT people, with Win 2000 and XP at work. By doing so I lost a lot of learning time which could not be made up by reading. DA

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Here are two possible layouts. Your space is tough! However, I think I may have come up with 2 possible layouts, but I do like the one labeled "Tom_G_DC #2" the best. These layouts assume: * You take down the left wall b/w the kitchen & DR and go to w/in 3" of the DR window. * The step can be made narrower...3" on either side of the doorway to the bathroom * Cabinets on right wall go to w/in 3" of the bathroom doorway & flush w/the step * 15" overhang steals another 3" from the DR * In Layout #2, the tall cabinet containing the Convection MW will run up to the step so the toe kick will have to be "raised" to the height of the step * Ditto for the 21" cabinet in Layout #1 (the step was not drawn in, sorry) Other notes: * In both layouts, the MW is in a tall cabinet. This allows you to put it at a good height for you and also provides additional storage space above and below the MW...something your kitchen needs! The MW doesn't have to be built-in, rather an alcove can be created to put the MW in. * The refrigerator has a 3/4" finished end panel on each side. * Ditto for the tall cabinet in Layout #1 * In Layout #2, the tall cabinet only needs a finished panel on the top half of the exposed side. The other side is against the wall and the bottom of the exposed side is against cabinets and countertop. * Peninsula: The countertop will run up to the tall cabinet in Layout #2, incorporating the 3" filler below the counter b/w the tall cabinet and the base cabinet in the peninsula. * Peninsula seating: ...-- In Layout #1, there is seating for 3 as in your original floor plan. The difference is that with this layout the 3rd person is not looking at a cabinet 12" in front of his face ...-- In Layout #2, there's really only space for 2. The "extra" space to the right is too shallow for another seat. You could either run the countertop around there for extra space in the DR (for dishes, narrow ones!) w/a 9" cabinet below or you could put in a 9" deep tall cabinet and not extend the countertop past the tall MW cabinet. Sink: You don't have a lot of work space around the sink. However, there is enough workspace, I think, to provide space for stacking dirty dishes and cleanup. For prep, there is additional work space around the range and directly across from the sink. Every wall is broken up by something...either doorway or window...and you don't have a long enough run on any wall to incorporate the refrigerator + range or refrigerator + sink and still have decent work space. I felt these layouts, especially #2, are a good compromise and provide at least some work space around every appliance. You could move the sink & DW to the peninsula, but I'm not a big fan of that since it not only takes away your only decent expanse of space for prep, baking, etc., but also for homework & other projects. The sink would also be "in the face" of anyone sitting across from the sink. I'd like to see another 9 to 12 inches depth if you do put the sink in the peninsula. However, it's up to you. Trash & Recycle: You mention that you couldn't find space for the trash can or the recycle bin. Rev-A-Shelf makes a double 27-qt trash pullout that fits a 15" face-frame cabinet. In Layout #2, you could put both in either: * the 15" cabinet on the right wall ...OR * If you only need 2" of clearance b/w the refrigerator & window, then the 14" cabinet b/w the refrigerator and sink could be 15" and you could put the trash pullout there. RV-4WCTM-15DM-2 - Top Mount Double Bin Pull-Out Waste Container About that 14" cabinet...if you will have custom cabinets, you should be able to get a 14" cabinet. However, if you are getting stock cabinets (and probably semi-custom), you will probably have to get a 12" cabinet + 2" filler since stock cabinets usually come in set sizes and semi-custom in increments of 3". If you can make it a 15" cabinet, then you'll be OK with almost any cabinet line, I think. Please remember that this is your kitchen and that these are only suggestions. The design of your kitchen is ultimately up to you. So, you can take anything you like and throw out the rest! Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck & welcome to the obsession--TKObsessed! Layout #1 (NOT my favorite) Layout #2...my personal favorite