Been a busy 2 days with Maddy so I have not even checked if everyone has gotten their package yet. All 12 of them that went out. I hope so! Ria as I wrote you I would be happy to share some EE's with you come fall. I can dig you some new ones up that grew out of the mommy. I hope. Cause I was suprised how many offsprings I got from the 3 moms. Let me know if you still need some then ok. REally sorry you were not here when I had them still to offer. Lucy

You would probably have to special order the Peter's Excel, and I would advise you, to have your favorite local nursery do it for you. Because of the Nitrate composition of this fertilizer, it is classified as a "security risk" and there is "special paperwork" that has to be filled out with it. Homeland Security style stuff. Better the nursery, than you! I think Helena Chemicals can supply it, but again, they would require a lot of info from you

Paint chips, what a nice compliment - thank you! What a great kitchen and pass-through! I wouldn't paint them the wall color, because I think it will cheapen the effect of the granite and the corbels. They are decorative, and not meant to disappear imo, which is what will happen if they are painted the wall color. Though I like the idea of staining them to match the kitchen cabinets, I am wondering, since they are on the outside of the kitchen, if it isn't more important for those corbels to fit the decor of this side of the pass-through, which I am guessing doesn't have any of those stained cabinets. So, I would either paint them the trim color that is used in that side of the room (because they are sort of a trim/finishing piece. Or, I would stain them to match any major wood going on in that room, like built in or substantial cabinets or entertainment center, etc. But I have another thought. It appears that the island has a whitewash on the wood, or a pickled effect? If that is the case, I would go for that. It would be a great interesting look to tie in with the kitchen, yet be a softer feel against the wall color, and a blend with all the trim. Have I thoroughly confused the issue? If so, my job here is done...LOL

QUOTE "I own a service organization in Florida and we use ALL the products available, but donÂt favor any one product. We donÂt have to comply with CaliforniaÂs Title 20, however, we know itÂs coming our way and again, we are reviewing all the options available to us to comply." Once you look at all options AND do the math, you will see there are few options if the customer has the least amount of money to spend. Work it through. Go to each controller you can think of, add the costs of pumps, relays, automation upgrades that don't have 2 speed capability, and then look at the difference in costs compared to ROI. Variable is the best deal. Now, look at Variable. In the industry names, you have three. A 6 speed Hayward, built on the "not proving itself" TriStar and another box they want you to install on the wall, An 8 speed Jandy, built on nothing proven or a 3050 speed Pentair built on the very reliable, very proven WhisperFlo. You too will come to realize that there is really no comparison but it is the owner who makes the choice. Selling all is doing a disservice for a buck. Selling what works if it's only a few products is doing the customer right. I would challenge anybody here to see where those who advise variable speed on this board are one track minds. We clearly state on a regular basis that this pump is not the only option and best option for all pools. I am totally against the multitasking that owners here seem to want. It's not the intent of the pump even though it works. It's for low flow circ and nothing out there will compare today.