I have this rose too and the first blooms were white and shapeless. Now it's more creamy and has a better form. I think it needs time to come into its own. I think another year should see lots of improvement. It's already a pretty little spreading bush, with lots of buds. Ingrid

Re-reading this thread once again. I just thought I'd point out how much difference subtle climate variations can make in the health of roses. I'm not sure exactly where Luxrosa lives, but we are both in the general Bay Area, me in the South Bay. Celine Forestier was on her list of very healthy roses. It is one of my worst for PM, and its spot is going to be given to Bouquet d'Or when that rose arrives. My fingers are crossed that it will do well here. I fell in love with it from Paparoseman's pictures. Of course he lives up in the PNW, a climate completely different from anywhere in the sunny Bay Area. Rosefolly

Haahahahaa! Karen this is SO funny. I'm bursting into laughter reading these posts again, and remembering writing and reading them at the time. Well done! And my favourite part about Martha Stewart dropping in with her dish towel parachute!!! WAY too funny!

Not only do we have the "in commerce" Beales Parks Yellow (BPY) in the Sacramento cemetery, we have Lamarque, Jesse Hildreth and Westside Road Cream Tea, so you can compare them when you come to visit us. I've been surprised at how short and twiggy our JH has been, after about 4 years in the ground, and how small the flowers are. I asked Jeri to confirm that we had the right label on our JH, which she did this year, since it grows so differently than I expected based on the photos of the mature plant. Since Westside Road Cream Tea has quite large flowers, I did not connect the two as possibly the same or closely related - although I agree that the growth habit for both is similar (short and wide).. If they bloom at the same time in the future, I will compare further. One thing I wonder about is the fragrance. If WRCT and JH smell different, they aren't the same rose. JH is in full sun in the cemetery - WRCT is in partial shade. Paula, it's good that you are putting yours side by side. Anybody who wants to see BPY needs to come early in our spring flush. It has a luscious grapefruit scent. It blooms early, and only once, with an incredibly romantic display of full, fragrant flowers dripping from cascading canes. It and Lamarque are true climbers. Truly humdrum found names (#42, anyone?) are not good. Far better to describe where it was found, such as the road or gravesite. Also not good is putting a class in the found name. Once we've had a chance to grow and observe it, a "mini" may actually be a giant Tea-Noisette (Fred Boutin originally collected "Le Pactole" as "Sonora Lemon-White Mini" and was stunned when it grew huge) and a "centifolia" may repeat bloom. Anita