Follow-ups and Thanks re Pie, Fruit Leather and Halloween
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I found out why Wikipedia is a joke Re fruit varieties
Comments (20)I've never researched how WP contributions & monitoring of posted material works. Several times I've heard it disparaged as a reference source when used in debate, with the comment "anyone can post, I can change that page right now" or "WP is compiled by 15 yr olds" etc. So I read through the entire talk/history of the My Jewel article out of curiosity. Here is what my read found: You added My Jewel to this of cultivars. It's possible this in itself would've stayed in place. Because you created a short article to link from the cultivar list, it generated attention. Someone "patrolled" it immediately and found it was OK (not blatant vandalism). But one criteria for new articles (vs. reference in existing articles) is that it meet "notability" standards, as not just anything should have it's own page in an encyclopedia! A few hours later, it was tagged for speedy deletion with a fairly "low priority" reason code of A7. Another editor corrected that editor for using the wrong code. You also pleaded with the initial editor -- he removed it. A few minutes later a different editor again tags it for deletion with an even higher reason code and also adds a COI code to it! Because My Jewel is obscure, you referenced a specific company in a fairly unknown city, which sounded like you were affiliated or pushing the tree for personal benefit, the reason they tagged you with the Conflict of Interest. At this point I was LOL. When you defended it to the editor stating you don't have any interest in the company and only grow the tree yourself for personal consumption they said "well, if you're the only one growing it, then you want others to grow it" you now have a conflict of interest! I was rolling my eyes on that one, too! You corrected these two editors, by quoting them the WP guidelines for COI and notability and received "oh you're right, let's put it all back". Those conversations happened on three editors individual Talk pages. But meanwhile, two more editors get involved and agree between themselves it wasn't notable enough in a Google search, and posted such on the new page "Marked for Deletion -- My Jewel" (not sure if you were even aware of this at the time). That's a grand total of 6 editors involved a mere few hours after posting it, 5 of which originally wanted it deleted (not revised, deleted). A couple days later, admin drops by, looks only at the two comments on the Marked for Deletion page (by editors you hadn't conversed with yet) and voila, it's gone. The editors you previously convinced had moved on without updating a thing. It was obvious to me there wasn't any specific bias towards you or the apple, but rather they treat you like doctors treat walk-in patients with pain. You're a drug seeker unless you absolutely prove it different (with 3rd party proof of the pain or condition, otherwise it's a conflict of interest if you describe it). Because as stated in prior posts, the WP editors expect either you don't know what you're doing, have your own interests in mind, or are there to flat out vandalize. You must be glutton for punishment as a newbie posting an article; otherwise you must be previously respected, ie. WP-credentialed, to avoid this initial wall. From browsing the other points on those editors talk pages, I can understand why. A few days in doctor shoes, seeing real drug-seekers come in and repeated saying "my pain ia a 10!" numbs you quickly. It's unfortunate on both sides....See MorePumpkin-ish pie recipies
Comments (5)I use buttercup squash sometimes, and the pumpkins sold for Halloween are mostly elongated and large ornamental and lack the taste of a more squat sugar pumpkin. Instead of following a recipe as to the measurement of spices, I find that almost twice the amounts of nutmeg and ginger should be used. Additionally, a dash of salt and obviously good fresh cinnamon, but not too much as it can make it hot and spicy, as can ground ginger. I use a little molassas and brown sugar as well. Some recipes use evaporated milk, but I prefer to use less of that and more eggs. Also, I try to get as much water out of the pumpkin or squash prior to using in a pumpkin pie filling. I avoid using the prepackaged 'pumpkin pie spice' as its just a mix of what I currently use and is not to my taste standards....See MoreUPDATE: Spooktacular Halloween Swap (part 2)
Comments (150)I haven't grown many pumpkins for eating. I have grown a basic sugar pie pumpkin they are ok. As I understand it, New England Pie, Baby Pam, Fairytale and Cinderella Pumpkins are all very good. And all on my want list. :) So far this year, the Blue Hubbard is my ultimate favorite. YUM. It is like sweet potato, but better. I'd like to use those for breads and pies. Also, tonight we cut into a butternut we grew and it was the ORANGEST butternut I have ever seen and it was the best tasting too....See MoreUpdate: Follow Up - OBF The Secret Haunted Garden
Comments (71)Well, I received Margaret's wonderful box today. Thank you Margaret for the wonderful fall items. Margaret sent: A fall motif placemat a light-up pumpkin a scarecrow door hanger another scarecrow figue a pumpkin tealight. 12 apeldorn elite tulip bulbs a cinnamon fern a hot buttered rum candle halloween napkins halloween wind sock hibiscus pattern serving plate and tray Some chocolates that seem to have disappeared but I know they were here :) seeds: aquilegia vulgaris winter squash gourmet pepper Thanks so much, Margaret, I hope things have settled down for you and that life is treating you well. I'm glad you have joined our group! Hope everyone is having a comforting, enjoyable autumn. Things have turned cool here for now. We are having temps in the 30's tonight as well. Stay warm. Theresa...See More- 3 days ago
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