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Comments (2)Botulism isn't usually a concern if its cured with nitrates/nitrites. The 'Prague' is adding nitrites (and nitrogen) to the meat and has a preservative effect, which makes it stay pink. They use these in pepperoni, and you have probably seen pepperoni and other meats that are not even refrigerated, like some specialty sausages and even summer sausages. Because you don't have good control over the amount or salt and nitrites/nitrates in the Morton Tender Quick, it tends to be suitable for those who are not too concerned if its overly salty, or just want to give it a simple single try. When I make this brine, its usually the meat that gets weighed and the brine amount its based on the salt and Prague (nitrites/nitrates) and water. Here, I do use measuring devices, as its important to get the right amount of salt, and after curing if its too salty its hard to remove it. Prague is also got pink color and salt added so its not just pure nitrites/nitrates. If it were, it would be about 1/8 the amount that is in a tablespoon of Prague. They do this so that its easier to measure or weigh the nitrites/nitrates, and you are less likly to over do the amount. Soaking the meat for that long (2 weeks!? )is too much time. No matter what the books say. I use a meat pump, an oversized hypodermic needle and syringe and inject the brine into the meat. Because a brisket is quite thin, it needs very little brining, maybe 2-3 days tops. A very low, slow cooking is essential for a tender result. In this forum are many sources for the nitrites and nitrates and other curing supplies as well as links to recipes. Corned beef is also made into pastrami, by coating the outside with the same pckling spices and baking very slowly like 6 hours at 250 degrees. Usually the nitrates are used for longer, slower air curing, and nitrites are used for fast curing like sausages and corned beef. They also identify these as Instacure #1 and Instacure #2. Here, I don't use a pickling spice mix per se, but instead grind up peppercorns, mustard seed, coriander, bay leaf, celery seed, dried garlic, onion, and a few other spices (done in a small blender type coffee grinder) THis spice mix is also added to the brine. Suggest that uou remove it from the brine now, and rinse it off well, then either simmer to cook it very slowly for several hours, or bake at a very low 200-250 degree oven, covered, for about 4-6 hours. The internal temp should eventially reach about 160. I have even made a great pastrami from very lean eye of the round, which in itself tends to be quite tough. Not sure if you actaully tasted the brine before it was soaking the meat, but if it was overly salty, it may result in that same end result. Years ago, before I started making cured meats, my mom had gotten a recipe off a package of Morton Tender Quick to make a hamburger type pepperoni that was wrapped in aluminim foil like a big sausage and baked. It did turn out quite interesting, but was a bit salty. I still have that almost full bag of Morton Tender Quick here, for nearly 30 years now, and have not used any since. Lots of good info on nitrates and nitrites at this link to: http://www.butcher-packer.com/pages-document_general_info/product-743/nitrite-and-nitrate-curing-salt.html Here is a link that might be useful: Butcher Packer...See MoreAnother miss on Corned Beef :(
Comments (11)Thanks for all of the suggestions, I've not considered the brands!! I've moved three time in the last 3.5 years, so different grocery stores. I had a commissary in Maryland and was making a really nice CB up there. It was the whole thing, not just the flat cut, like the fat :). Then in FL I bought at Publix and here in NC there is Farm Fresh. There is a TJ's an hour North of me, along with Target and an actual mall. Also some commissaries in Norfolk. I'll start paying attention to the brand. I've always wanted to wash off the brisket, but thought I was supposed to keep it. I dislike that nasty floating stuff that it creates, from now on I'll be washing it off!!! Christy...See MoreCrockpot corned beef
Comments (6)Well I don't want a corned hockey puck, so I curbed my craving and decided to wait until tomorrow. I've googled some recipes, and they are many!! I wish I had some beer, it seems that that is a common ingredient. I will add new potatoes, cabbage, onions and carrots. I'm guessing I should let it cook about 8 - 10 hours on low (it's an almost 3 pounds brisket), can I at least prep the pot? Put the insert for the crockpot with corned beef and veggies in the fridge with lid, and then just put it in the pot in the morning and turn it on? Thanks so much, and obviously still learning :) Christy...See MoreCorned Beef - It's That Time
Comments (36)Yes, Steve, I have. I'm not a fan of venison roasted, so I decided to try it corned. I defy anyone to tell me it's not beef, and I didn't add any fat, it was a nice, lean roast. It did take 5 days of curing, though. I got the recipe from a book of wild game recipes called "Preparing Fish and Wild Game." Since we put bass, lake perch, catfish and bluegills in the pond, and my husband shot 3 deer last year, both with a gun and with a bow, I figured the 99 cents at Goodwill was well worth the price. It was. CORNED VENISON 2- 3 pound brisket, flank or shoulder roast, 2 quarts distilled water (I just used tap water because I'm a rebel and don't care) 1/2 cup canning and pickling salt 1/2 cup Tenderquick 3 tablespoons sugar 2 tablespoons pickling spice 2 bay leaves 8 whole peppercorns 1 or 2 cloves of garlic, minced Roll brisket or flank and tie it. (Mine came rolled and tied from the processor). Place in a large glass or pottery vessel or in a large plastic bag. (I put it in a bag and then into a bowl in case of leaks) Combine remaining ingredients in a non reactive pan and bring to a boil. Remove from heat and cool to room temperature. Pour cooled brine over meat and squeeze air from bag. Refrigerate for 4 or 5 days, turning occasionally. Drain and rinse meat with cold water. To prepare meat, place in dutch oven and cover with water. Heat to boiling, drain and add fresh water to cover. Heat to boiling, cover pan and simmer until tender, 3 1/2 to 4 hours. I did the one above in the oven at 325F for about 4 hours, and I didn't drain and add fresh water the last time but I should have. It's too salty without that boil/drain step. Good luck, this works well with venison, with beef round roast, with moose loin, even with buffalo. My favorite is the venison, though, and it's easily available for me. I do raise beef, so that works well too, and a friend gave me some moose, but I don't have them readily available. I can buy bison/buffalo locally, but I don't bother because I have venison and beef. Annie...See More- last year
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