Why can't anyone sell samples in a flat or matte? :/ To me, it does make a difference. I didn't think about waiting till they had sales. I can wait, I'm not in a big hurry. Are you loving the general color now that it's up on four walls lasatx, that's a hard question to answer. I've been thinking about it. In general, I like the color...well, one or two of the colors it can be at any given time. I'm not opposed to the color it's self. I'm opposed to the variety of colors it can turn and with the carpet. It's too bright for the carpet and the ambiance I wanted to project. It COULD look good if I didn't have a preconceived notion of what I expected. It's not the grownup plum I want. If I'm going to stay with purple, I think it's going to have to be a more brown based purple (which was suggested to me in one of my earlier threads on this topic). I originally didn't consider going that dark but I would. The gray based plums are pretty and give that dusky warmth but I don't think the gray base works with the creamy background of the carpet or the reddish brown floral print. I do think it's the magenta that's giving me fits but I've been wrong on ALL counts so far so who knows. When I can get to the SW store (40 miles one way) I'll take the left over paint and see if they'll work with me. I'm also going to test the Soulmate and possibly the Expressive Plum colors. I'm open to suggestions tho!!! I don't see how you can make an educated choice unless you paint all 4 walls since the same paint can be multiple colors at the same time. I never noticed the med chocolate brown color I had before this being that way. I have not tried the Reveal bulbs yet. I looked for them at WM a few days ago and didn't find any. I have to drive 40 miles one way to get to any other stores :o

Take a look at SW Repose Gray, Mindful Gray and Dorian Gray. They are in the greige family but have a hint of green. With your honey oak cabinets and green countertops I think you would like any of them. The Repose is lightest. We have used it in two bedrooms, a hall and home office. It works great with gray carpet, wood trim and white trim. Good luck and let us know what you decide and for sure show us before and after pics!

why do you think that Ben Moore and Sherwin Williams don't post the color information on their paint chips like Glidden does? Oh, gosh. Lots of thoughts on this. Will try to keep it as short as possible. First, all paint brands already have these data values and notations for every color - they couldn't MAKE paint colors without it. It's that color DNA I'm always talking about. Sherwin-Williams used to share the Munsell notations for all their colors. Learned this from a color scientist who used to work for SW - and I acquired that original PDF. We don't use the SW Munsell notations, however, because we do our own here at The Land of Color. Just because I have major control issues when it comes to the data - it has to be perfect. The Glidden notation is their own proprietary color system developed in 1978. It has its own color wheel, and LRV and Chroma scales. It's all published in the front of The Master Palette fandeck. Their proprietary system is different from the Munsell color notations I like to use. Munsell is my favorite for several reasons but mostly because I've used it for so long it's second nature to me. Glidden's system is a damn good order system. It is the first and, one and only, color system designed specifically for architectural coatings. Its formal name is the Acoat Codification System. So, yeah, color order systems for paint colors specifically have been a thing for 42+ years. All things considered from a color science perspective, I think paint brands choose to talk about undertones, color trends, and forecasts because they are intangible - no one is ever wrong talking about undertones, trends, and forecasts because you can make up whatever you want; there's a kind of banal safety in the inherent subjectivity of each one. They don't have to hire anybody with any special color knowledge or experience to market their paint if they focus on intangibles like undertones, forecasts, and trends. Because, again, everybody is making it up as they go anyway. When you get into the color science, data values/notations in particular, that's a special skill set. You can't just make up whatever you want when it comes to the science of color, how color really works, because there's 100+ years of well-researched and well-documented sources and standards to reference about all things color spaces and systems. And anybody can Google and find it - all of it. Before I publish ANYTHING anywhere, I like to have 3, academic level, quality sources to cite in my back pocket. I don't do Wikipedia and I'd eat nails before citing a blog as a source for color information. When you're speaking to color in such evidence-based, tangible terms, when you're talking about quantifying how the human eye sees color, you have to know what you're talking about. Because it's science. It's physics. It's psychophysics. I suspect that's more work, responsibility, and accountability than paint manufacturers are capable of dealing with. The murky world of undertones, trends and forecasts is cheaper, easier. And, honestly, probably more fun to spin in the intangibles and espouse opinions with reckless abandon, giving zero !@#$s if it's accurate or not. The problem is, it's 2020 and the color tech tools like Color Muse, NIX, Color Reader is making the science, an evidence-based approach to color - data values specifically - available to anyone who knows where to look for them in the apps. Which means more and more people are learning about the color systems that have been around for 100+ years and want to know why the frameworks of color data values and notations have been unshared. I will say this, whichever paint brand is the first to "get it" when it comes to an evidence-based approach to color and publishes Munsell notations on their apps, website, and paint chips, is going to win not only the internet but paint world in general.

I would go with more contrast, more interesting color