I don't want to overdo by ovens! Need advice -Speed, Steam, Conv, etc.
Donna Reed
3 years ago
Ok so I have done my research and for me, I am going with the Wolf M series. I love to cook from scratch but with 4 teenagers going everywhere all the time not as frequently as I would like. But I do want to build a kitchen that does all that I want, but more importantly NEED! But I don't want to overdue my kitchen though! Here is an idea of what we designed but have changed up the appliances. I am going with the induction cooktop and a wall oven next to fridge. But here are my selections:
(1) Convection/oven (bottom)
(2) Steam oven (top)
(3) ??Microwave drawer OR Speed oven (under counter)
(4) OR neither, and just put a regular $300 microwave in pantry next to a toaster/ninja
I also have this Ninja 8-1 that is AMAZING! It heats up bake in 2 minutes and you can cook anything that will fit in it quickly. I don't think it is a "speed" oven, but because the temp is so quick it's a great feature instead of oven for small items. I also use it to toast. But it's a counter top item. Was thinking of putting it in the pantry (when you first walk in will be a station) and maybe even a basic microwave. I use zero features on my microwave except time and start! Maybe Bev option! Some recommended why spend so much $$ on micro drawer and just get a basic one for pantry! Hmmmmmm https://www.ninjakitchen.com/exclusive-offer/SP101WBKT/ninja-foodi-digital-air-fry-oven/
If I have an oven and a steam oven, do you think I would still need a "speed" oven. And would you use it for just smaller items like I use my ninja for? I don't know of anyone that actually has all three. I can definitely use a second oven for regular cooking as I find myself rotating cookie sheets, or pans of roasted items. Cooking meat and then veggies. Cooking dinner but want appetizers in oven, etc. Not weekly, but maybe monthly.
Any input?
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Comments (12)Hi Skepka - welcome. I understand where you are coming from. It can be overwhelming. I've been here a couple of years & my advice is - keep reading! The appliance forum, the laundry forum & the kitchen forum. Lots of nice people & good advice from people who have been there done that & have no financial interest in selling you brand A over brand B. Go to manufacturers web sites (i.e. Whirlpool.com, Maytag.com etc.) If you haven't bought your new house yet all the better - you can keep this info in mind while you are looking! A few comments regarding your list: Fridge: We're also going with french door, but no water or ice on door. Instead we're doing under sink filter with fill spout over sink. Can fill pitchers etc. much easier. You can get them with cold and/or hot water but we're sticking with just a room temp one. We generally drink water that way & can add a couple of ice cubes if we want colder. As for ice capacity, you can get a separate ice maker but they are pricey & require their own plumbing. Stove: OK, I won't be much help here since my range is my big splurge. I'm going with all gas instead of dual fuel. I bake bread & cookies, but not a lot of delicate/fancy cakes & pastries. There are some very nice looking ranges out there in stainless steel. Sort of a pro-look without the cost. Vent: Had recirculating in last house. Never again. Only thing it was good for was removing steam from immediate cooking area. You could walk into our kitchen in the morning & smell what we'd had for dinner the night before. Grease accumulated on the walls & cabinets near the stove & were a pain to keep clean. DW: There seem to be a lot of good choices out there. Quieter machines & those with more cycles cost more. Some people have had problems with european design machines (they don't have a heated dry cycle) & dishes coming out wet. Others have no problem at all. Check out rack configuration - its hard to do online. For some reason the web sites don't have very good pictures of interiors. Many here have suggested bringing a few dishes with you when you make your final decision. It sounded strange to me at first but after moving last year I found I get many fewer dishes in this dw than the last. I'll be bringing a few with me when we choose. Microwave: there are some that are meant to be hung under an upper cabinet. We're doing a microwave shelf as part of a cabinet. Decided against built in as then would be more limited by size when mw needs to be replaced. Washer/dryer: Read the laundry forum. Folks over there know so much about laundry its mind-boggling. FWIW I've got choices down to Duet or Bosch. Good luck & have fun!...See MoreI want to move, but I don't want to leave my kitchen.
Comments (35)Caligal, it really sounds like you want to stay with your current home. However, I'll just point out that right now the inventory of foreclosed homes gives people unprecedented chances to obtain homes they could not hope to have before and many will not be able to afford in future (let's hope no more such "wonderful" home markets). I don't mean go looking just for a bigger home (although in your case some additional size would be nice), but rather a lifestyle improvement: A decent home in a location that is particularly desirable to you. You know, location, location, location. Things like good schools, a pretty sociable neighborhood, close to family, en route between friends and mall (they'll be dropping in), favorite amenities close by (cows in pastures or high-density shopping, your choice), good proximity and transportion to work. Whatever floats your boat. If you're not already in a place you'd really like to raise your children and even be happy growing old, this current opportunity to make your home there should not be passed up for any but the most important reasons....See MoreInstallation of plumbed steam-oven: Advice please!
Comments (4)Okay, I get it. This actually makes it harder to pick apart, but I'm sure you can do it and come up with something fair. :) Looking at the intent (the exact wording is for lawyers and all, and I'm sure you don't want to go there). Are the builder's appliances high end like yours (Viking, Monogram, Architect, etc.)? If so you probably have a point. In general, I'd say that pick your own appliances and adjust the cabinetry as necessary would mean to the builder choose your DW and he'll adjust the opening, and do what needs to be done to the counter to fit. Choose your double oven and he'll trim out the cabinet to work with it. Etc. Not 10 steam ovens. More like if you had a nice kitchen with a couple broken appliances and needed to get something that would fit the locations, power, etc., he'd put them in place and make whatever repairs were necessary to make it work. I'm not advocating playing dumb, but unless you have a lot of experience in building and remodelling, you can, without being a stereotype, go to him and say frankly that you don't know why it costs so much to install your steam oven. Ask him to explain the costs to you in a non-adversarial way. Don't talk about what you know, but listen to what he tells you. Again, in a friendly way, if he says that he'd need to pull more electricity there for your fancy German babies, (wide eyed innocence is very non-confrontational and non-threatening), ask why that isn't covered in the installation. I frankly don't interpret "install" as including new services, but get him to say so. Ask him how much putting in the plumbing could cost, because your friend had a sink put in for...(get a number from a friend). Etc. You may find that by the time he's done explaining you'll find a place to negotiate to that both of you are comfortable with. You can also say, well, in that case you'll get the steam oven with the tank, so it won't be an extra charge. If he agrees to that, and you have it in writing, you can call back a couple hours later and say it was bugging you, and you really want the plumbing, and you'll pay the plumber to come in and do the fittings. But get an estimate from a plumber or two, as well, because it might just cost a similar amount as the builder quoted. Oh! Besides the water in and the drain, etc., out, you'll need a water shutoff, and it has to be at a certain (usually inconveniently placed in your cabinets) height, and easily accessible....See Moremiele convection steam oven vs wolf convection steam oven
Comments (9)I went through the same question some years back. Miele has more features for the $$, so I originally wanted that, but at the time they didn't have a combi/convection steam oven that could take 208V (what I had), so I settled with the Wolf instead. And I must say, I've been really happy with it. It works, it's not fussy. Yes, it doesn't have the color swipey screen the Miele has, but I'm not convinced I miss that all that much. Would I like a broiler? I think so, as it is something I use, but I do have another big oven with the broiler (that unit almost always takes a backseat to the convection steam unit) and I can use that when I'm broiling something, so it's not too bad. I've kept tabs on the Miele, and I've discovered that considering that if you don't get a plumbed unit, the Wolf is more forgiving than the Miele on how much water is in the tank (I'm pretty lazy and never fill it up all the way, and the Wolf lets me still use it as long as I have enough water). If you really want to go into the details about adjusting settings, moisture level, turning on upper element broiler, you'll want the Miele, but if you just want to use it, I think you'd like the Wolf. I certainly don't regret having to "settle" for it at all....See MoreDonna Reed
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2 years agoOn a related note, you've rather poor lighting that will result in a lot of shadows. You want to light work areas and NOT aisles.
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