The Lindleys have had this nursery for years and, like many of us as we get older, are retiring. Rather than close they were looking for a buyer to take over and continue. Not many of the younger qeneration are willing to do all the work running a nursery requires or can handle the investment. That plus rising property taxes and heating costs makes it hard to make a profit or live on the income without holding down another job. Michigan Mini Roses, just down the road from them, closed a few years ago for the same reason. Interested? For about $600,000 you can buy the business, property, inventory, and the home.

Hi Everyone..... Well, certainly some of the photos of Arizona on HMF look like mine, but there seems to be a huge variation in the bloom coloration and form on there. Whereas mine is more a deep orange and tightly-petalled, some of the photos show blooms more of the yellow coloring, and some with red to the edges. I wish I could see a bloom of Arizona in person! Because of the inconsistency of the photos I'd have to say its a strong contender, but I still am puzzled about the lack of fragrance of mine. Arizona is reported to be fragrant....mine definitely is not. Since I know detecting fragrance differs from person to person I would not base this on just my opinion alone. Dozens of people took sniffs of my rose all throughout the summer at different times and no one detected any scent whatsoever. Roses right next to it did have fragrance, so I don't think its the soil or the climate that caused the lack of scent. It just isn't fragrant at all.... I am under the impression that Jung's does get all their roses from Edmund's....they don't grow any themselves. Therefore, they couldn't help me with the identity. Thank you again to everyone for your help! I am amazed so many people jumped in to help! Celeste

I could have been more diplomatic in my comments. It was early after a hot night and I was grumpy. Anyway PF pretty much blooms continuously. RU is somewhat new, supposed to be a climber but mine is just floribunda sized. It had a very heavy first flush and now it is regrouping. I have a problem in that arbor with all the roses. Most don't grow vigorously, but then I think about Dr. W. van Fleet which shrugs off what ever is bothering the others.It does better than New Dawn. Ilse Krohn S. is the best of the rest so far manages to be head high. Manita across the way is the most vigorous of the K' climbers as is Antique '89. My original post on this subject was a quote from Charles Quest-Ritson's book about climbers and ramblers. "The trouble is that foreign names are often a barrier to popularity and commercial success. Many of the best German roses are ignored because of their names. Grossherzogin Eleonore von Hessen and Herzogin Viktoria-Adelheid von Coburg-Gotha may be difficult to remember and impossible for non-Germans to pronounce but their can be no excuse for ignoring such exceptional roses as Regierungsrat Rottenberger, Frau Eva Schubert, or Rosarium Uetersen." Wow! Talk about pronouncing, typing them ia also difficult.

artemis_mo: Flirtatious really stood out from other floribundas. Blooming like crazy, good fragrance and interesting shades of colours on the mostly white flowers. And looked very healthy. Pauline: Good to hear from you too! Mariannese is right: I meant to write e.g. She is also right about ValbyParken in Copenhagen, but I would also go see the nice garden in Frederiksdal, there are many great roses too. Best time is early June to mid July for seeing roses blooming here. Perhaps I can be your guide if you make it, since I would like to go see these gardens myself again. On another sad note - My girlfriend and I broke up :..-(( but we are still good friends. Barbarag_happy: I like all sorts of roses. I do not let HT rose exhibitors be the judge about what a perfect rose is influence my choices. I probably prefer fragrance over bloom shape. Thanks for mentioning Bewithched. Lance: the 777 rose I saw in SLC was very healthy with no leafloss even grown nospray. They do not seem to have BS problems in SLC. PM seems to be the problem for most roses there. Location, location, location as we say here on the forum. Connie: Nice to hear from you too! Lucky you to have a sweet surrender! Harry: great that you posted a picture of this Sweet rose! TerryJean: I was not gone MIA, I replied to one of your post not long ago? Time flies! The Flirtatious roses I saw was about 3 feet tall and 2 feet wide. They were mostly white blend with light yellow and peach tones. Carla: Too much work! Glad to be able to go on a little Vacation again. You really have to learn to graft roses Carla - It is very easy when you have rows of rootstock ready. By a strange "miracle" I now have 5 Sweet Surrender grafted yesterday on multiflora seedlings in my propagation garden. I could have sworn I would never do this, but I am just imperfect and irresponsible. At least no soil was carried here and I only used the budeyes and burned the canes. Heck I will even pay the royalties on the plants that make it if needed - it was introduced in 1983 and is OLD! Kind of make me feel Antique, even though my birth certificate says 1969. LOL. michaelg: I totally surrendered to Sweet Surrender! At leat that was how Bob Bauer said! Phil_Schoor and Curlydoc: you are right. Sweet surrender was an ARS selection and I agree - It really deserves A Gamble Award for that fragrance. HMF says it has good disease resistance too. Bob Bauer the rosegarderner I visited was a great guy and he has a webpage about roses: Here is a link that might be useful: Bob Bauers Rose Website