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What's your current challenge? A dish to stretch your skills?

plllog
4 years ago

People are still saying how good the chicken and biscuits were/are (it was a big dish and there's still some left). It's a way to clean the fridge and everybody likes chicken and biscuits, but no, there's no recipe. There's bought stuff, and found stuff, and leftovers, and stock and drippings, and just a few drops of cream. I keep saying, "This is basic American cooking." But that particular one will never be seen again.


I'm thinking it must be like egg rolls. If you come from an egg roll place, there are a bazillion ways to make them, and people I know put the same kinds of things in them as I did in the chicken and biscuits.


I still have my baking challenge to do. I set out to learn to make puff pastry, but by the time I'd found a good butter to use, it was into the holidays and no big blocks of time to devote to folding dough.


Now, however, before I get into the baking, I need a cooking challenge. Something new that's doable for take-with Sunday dinner. I keep trying to think of something but my mind drifts to meatloaf. A challenge at least needs a recipe, which meatloaf does not!


What cooking challenges have you set for yourselves?

Comments (63)

  • sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
    4 years ago

    The winter months, January-March, after the holidays, I always challenge myself to try new things. This season no different. With the Misfits box of veg, and a recent 3 pounds of crimini mushrooms, I'm challenged but so far success.

  • amylou321
    4 years ago

    I still haven't made homemade brioche. I am still too intimidated. Maybe one day.

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    4 years ago

    Pillog, have you boned an entire chicken to make a ballotine? The boning took me too long, but how nice it looked sliced on the platter.

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    Amy Lou for me the only challenging part of brioche was keeping the top knots in place during the baking. Otherwise it's just rich bread.

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  • nancyofnc
    4 years ago

    Coincidence that I just had a flash of "not having done that" just yesterday. Baking for more than 60 years (oh, my!) I've never made genoise sponge! Binge watching the Great British Baking Show they made a lot of it for various "bakes". So, off I went with all those eggs and no fat! Didn't even call for greased pans! So totally out of my prior adventures. Yesterday, with a whole lot of eggs, I made 6 of them. They were puffy, had lovely flavor - something between angel food cake and yellow cake, with an almost crusty edge. I imagined all the British "bakes" I could use them for. I cut the sponges in various sizes and parked them in the freezer for making something special for the two of us later taking out just small portions - otherwise I would have sat and ate all of it at once. I am so hooked.

  • bbstx
    4 years ago

    @amylou321, go for it! I’ve made brioche and I swear, it isn’t that hard! I didn’t do any fancy braiding or knotting. I simply made a loaf shape. Here is the recipe from Ina Garten that I used. It is from her Barefoot in Paris cookbook. I used my Thermapen and cooked it to 200 degrees (38 minutes in my oven). Remember, IG always uses Diamond Crystal salt.



  • bbstx
    4 years ago

    @CA Kate z9, if only I lived closer, I’d help you with your embarrassment of lemons. I want to make lemon squares for our “cousins’ dinner” Sunday night. However, Sister and I have agreed the lemons we can purchase at the grocery are so wimpy (un-tart), we cannot make a decent lemon square. At best it is just a nice piece of something sweet-ish. No zing; no pucker; no taste!

  • bbstx
    4 years ago

    @nancyofnc, recipe or link, please!

  • Moxie
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    DH gave me an Ankarsrum mixer for my birthday because I want to make more bread. His first question was "can it make cookies?" It's overkill for cookies, so I made a batch of about 9 dozen. He polished off 6 dozen in 10 days. Good thing he spends 3 hours at the gym every day!

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    4 years ago

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  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    John, could the answer be as simple as thermal shock? Can you leave them in a cooling oven with the door cracked open? Or maybe move them to a warmed up, steamy ice chest when you take them out, until they stabilize?

    Nancyjane, thanks for the explanation. They sound sort of like a number of Eastern European and Near Eastern things my mother used to make. Sounds good!

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  • Islay Corbel
    4 years ago

    Ravioli is not hard. Really. One egg, 100g flour, what have you got to lose? Roll it fine, make small ones, big ones.......the challenging pastas are the more complex ones like tortellini.

    For a simple seasonal filling, mix some ricotta with some blue cheese and some crushed walnuts. Serve with sage butter and crispy sage leaves.

  • foodonastump
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Mine’s a baking one. Inspired by a recent thread. I’ve been testing a bit, with both batter and equipment, neither of which aren’t inspiring confidence yet. That’s all I’ll let on for now. It’ll all either be on a Valentine’s thread or in the garbage!

  • laceyvail 6A, WV
    4 years ago

    I finally found a pizza recipe that really works for me. It was in the most recent issue of Milk Street, Christopher Kimball's new mag. It's deep dish pizza made in a cast iron skillet; it was just perfect and the best pizza I've ever made at home after some 40 years of effort. I'll post the recipe if anyone is interested.

  • foodonastump
    4 years ago

    Yes please!

  • ritaweeda
    4 years ago

    I realize that they require a lot of practice, but I've been making homemade corn tortillas for awhile now and they are pretty good but I've still not mastered it to the point where they puff up when they are cooked like I see the experts online get them to do. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the amount of water in the dough, just haven't figured it out yet. :(

  • blfenton
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Lots of lurking so hope it's ok to jump in with my 2020 challenge.

    My son's fiance is Celiac and my other son's partner is gluten intolerant, I can easily put on a meal that is gluten free but my challenge this year is to find some baking that is a success time after time. I've found a couple of cookie recipes using almond flour, a crumble using cornstarch and quinoa flakes and an orange cake.

    I know I can just buy gluten-free flour mix but we suspect my son might have a xanthum gum intolerance and honestly, it;s not as much fun. I've done lots of experiments and have had some epic fails, I made a cookie recipe that I had to bake in a cake pan, :) While tasty, it wasn't what I wanted.

    Next up is finding a cookie for Valentines Day.

  • ediej1209 AL Zn 7
    4 years ago

    Laceyvail, yes please!

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  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    FOAS, I have a guess. ;) Good luck!

    IC, ravioli are NOT that easy. I've tried before. I think the machine rolled will be better. But while I did finally get sheets of pasta that made my lasagna possible, they were neither straight nor even. Then I have to get the ravioli to stick closed. I've only made tortelloni once, but it was much easier! First off, I wasn't the one to make the actual pasta, and second, if the little "tie" spot in front comes open, the shape usually stays shut when cooking rather than the pasta floating away and the filling falling to the bottom. If you could wave a magic wand and make it as easy for me as it is for you, I'd certainly appreciate it!

    BLFenton, so glad to see you! If you search the Cooking forum you'll find a lot of threads about gluten free. At least half are requests, some of which never got good answers, but there are also many jewels. Look especially for posts from Nancyinnc, who used to sell her GF baking. Good luck with it!

  • seagrass_gw Cape Cod
    4 years ago

    I want to start cooking Japanese, Thai and Vietnamese food again. Such clean cuisines.

  • Bumblebeez SC Zone 7
    4 years ago

    Moxie, I would love to have an ankarsrum mixer! I'm sort of low carb these days, a slice and not a loaf :-) so can't do it. But if my KA ever dies, that will be the mixer. Right now my cooking curiosity is all about low carb espresso shots. Although I ordered a puremade toroni syrup last night. lol

  • shirl36
    4 years ago

    My challenge is Pasties as of this morning. Our youngest son has just returned from a 6 day snowmobiling trip in the Upper Peninsula, Mi. He ask me if I had heard of Pasties, gave him a no, but as he was telling of them I thought I have heard of them. He described them and the story of long ago the miners in that area took as their lunches into the mines.

    As soon as he left I headed for the Cooking Forum searches and found the following. Pasties January 2012 by Wizardnm. The post very much as I remembered. Annie committed about the miners taking them for their lunches. My new challenge....Soon going to use Wizardnm’s recipe and make.

  • Lars
    4 years ago

    My current challenge is trying to figure out how to operate our new oven in Cathedral City. I did not have time to start last week-end, but I brought the manual back, which I plan to condense into something I will be able to understand.

    I've made a version of brioche, but I do not have a specific brioche pan, since it really is not on my diet, and I prefer to make challah, which is still a bit tricky for me, and so I have to look at my instructions when starting to braid it. I always make the six strand version. If I made it more often, the braiding would become second nature, but I only make it about twice a year.

  • Elizabeth
    4 years ago

    Shirl36, I am a long time resident of the U.P. I often make a meat pie instead of individual pasties. Exact same ingredients but it is baked like a two crust pie. Depending on how full it is, it can take an hour and a half to bake. Make lots of openings for steam. It is much easier for serving a family. Your house will smell heavenly. Most folks put ketchup on it.

  • marymd7
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I grew up on Minnesota's Mesabi Iron Range where I ate lots and lots of pasties. They're less often made at home these days, and far more often purchased from the big pasty sales churches, schools and clubs do as regular fund raisers. Since I live in Maryland now, I make my own at home. Traditionally, they call for a boiling water lard crust (a very strong crust), but since I'm not taking them to the mine pits with me for lunch, I use a regular lard or butter pastry crust which tends to be a bit flakier. I like a mix of beef and pork and I'm definitely in the rutabaga camp, although I also commit occasional Iron Range pasty heresy by including a bit of parsnip. There's a good basic pasty recipe in Bea Ojakangas' classic Great Scandinavian Baking. Bea also grew up on the Range, where Finns and other Scandinavian immigrants worked in the mines.

  • marymd7
    4 years ago

    Oops, after all that pasty commentary, I completely left off my challenge. I am working on custards - pots de creme to be specific. Getting the jiggle right and all of that. Unfortunately, every recipe has been delicious (even if not quite at the perfect jiggle) and makes at least 8 little ramekins of calorific stuff. First world problems, I guess.

  • Jilly
    4 years ago

    My challenge every year is to make tamales. I still haven’t. I’ve researched, I’ve asked advice at local Mexican restaurants, etc, but am still too intimidated. It just looks really hard and I’m not a natural in the kitchen.

  • lizbeth-gardener
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    My current challenge is to get my NIB Zojirushi Virtuoso out of the box-I bought it on an online auction at least five years ago and have never unpacked, except to look it over. I want to try a loaf of Challah and/or a brioche for the sole purpose of making a really good bread pudding. I want to try the recipe nancyofnc posted for brioche using this same machine and also may try the recipe bbstx posted of Ina Garten's. If anyone has a good TNT recipe for Challah, please share.

  • bbstx
    4 years ago

    @lizbeth-gardener here is my favorite recipe for Bread Pudding. It came to me from a friend’s mother; she said it was the one used by the Bon-Ton Cafe in New Orleans. The pudding is great, but I’ve never been able to get the sauce right. Mine is grainy. My sister’s best bud also makes a whiskey sauce when he makes bread pudding. His is smooth. It has cream in it which may make the difference.



  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Try running your sugar through the food processor (or use superfine/caster if you have it). Butter and egg are highly unlikely to be grainy, so my best bet is that the sugar isn't completely melted. If you think it's actually the egg make sure it's at least room temp to start, temper it (heat it) with a a little of the hot butter/sugar before adding the eggs in.

    Jinx, just do it! If you want to, you can practice with a small can of masa and a packet of husks. Just schmear, fill with anything (canned chili, maybe) and roll. Maybe tie as well. Then unroll, scrape, and try again. The hard part is getting the proportions right, so practice. When you're confident in the rolling, you can use the good masa and 15 hour filling. :)

    I'm still in the doldrums. I can't think of anything new I want to cook. I should read some cookbooks, I guess. I should make soup to freeze, but my two favorites are roasted tomato and red pepper, and I'm off nightshades and want soup I can eat, and don't want heavy soups like bean or lentil. All I can think of are butternut and onion but I'm not motivated to make either. I suppose I could make pea. I make it vegetarian with dill.

  • lizbeth-gardener
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    bbstx: Thank you for the recipe. After reading the recipe and your comments about the sauce, I picked up my Silver Palate cookbook to see if there was a sauce recipe for bread pudding. Much to my surprise, their bread pudding recipe is an adaptation of the original that was given to the authors by Alzina Pierce of the Bon Ton Restaurant in New Orlean. It is the same recipe as yours with the only change being they used 1 and 1/2cups of sugar rather than two and the sauce is the same except for the sugar is 1 cup of confectioners' which might be the solution to your grainy sauce. I will certainly give this a try! Do you leave the bread out to get dry or just use fresh?

  • bbstx
    4 years ago

    @plllog, I’m fairly certain it is the sugar that hasn’t completely melted. I’ve worked on trying to make that sauce smooth for nearly 30 years. Perhaps your idea of making the sugar into “super-fine” will help. It’ll be a while before I can test it, though. After the holidays, I’ve taken a sweets-hiatus. I over-indulged and now I’ve got a couple of pounds to shed.


    @lizbeth-gardener, how interesting! I have the Silver Palate cookbook too but never thought to compare the recipes. I have an aversion to confectioners‘ sugar. I think it is the cornstarch in it. Whatever, it has an unappetizing flavor to me. I’d rather have the graininess of regular sugar than the taste of confectioners’ sugar. But that is just me being quirky. YMMV


    If you make bread pudding with brioche, you might want to follow the Silver Palate version and reduce the sugar to 1.5 cups. My recollection is that brioche is sweeter than French bread.


    I’ve never purposely dried out my bread for bread pudding, but it is generally at least a day old when I use it. The Bon-Ton recipe is not one where you have cubes of bread that are distinct. It is really a pudding. You tear the loaf of bread into pieces, cover it with liquid, then use your hands to “crush” the bread with the liquid, resulting in something like a heavily textured cake batter. Your final product will look similar to this:



    NOT THIS:





    I had a sick friend who was pining for bread pudding. Because of meds, she could not have anything with alcohol in it. I found the below sauce recipe. It is good, easy, and quick if you need or want something non-alcoholic.




  • sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
    4 years ago

    My challenge every year is to make tamales. I still haven’t. I’ve researched, I’ve asked advice at local Mexican restaurants, etc, but am still too intimidated. It just looks really hard and I’m not a natural in the kitchen.

    I'll be making an annual batch sometime before the 5th of May. They freeze excellent.

    Pick up your dry ingredients and we will walk you through it when you are ready. This is a good primer, HERE

  • Jilly
    4 years ago

    Thank you, plllog and sleevendog! I really appreciate the advice and motivation. :)

  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    I thought of a cooking challenge for soup! I've never perfected the kind of "wet vegetable" minestrone I love. I've made a few tries, but have yet to get it right. I don't have any green beans, but I could make an attempt...

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  • KatieC
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    This week the challenge is gluten free sourdough starter, then the bread. IF the starter lives, lol.

  • naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    My challenge listed above was pasta, but I took on another challenge first. Sourdough - but not KatieC's gluten free kind. Last Sunday I was gifted some great starter and a few days later I baked the first loaves. I've never worked with sourdough before, but the directions I was given with the starter gave me a good bread. I baked the second loaf for a shorter period of time and bagged it as soon as it was cool. The first one had such a hard crust I could hardly cut it! And eating the crust hurt my mouth. The second one was still crusty, but much easier to cut and chew - about perfect for me. There sure is a LOT of differing info out there about how to make sourdough. I decided I can try whatever I want in the future, and it will probably match someone's preferred method :)

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    All in all I was pleased to accomplish acceptable results with food types I had not worked with before. For the cost of a bag of flour I had a lot of fun during some snowy days - and could eat the results!

    And Annie, I ended up using Pillsbury All Purpose Flour, one of your suggestions. I could put the challenge off for a long time if I got too caught up in having the "perfect" flour.



  • Lars
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

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  • artemis_ma
    4 years ago

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  • Lars
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  • plllog
    Original Author
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    Lars, I think it was rennet! Didn't we have a discussion about tablet vs. liquid rennet and you bought some tablets?

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    Yes, we did have this discussion, and I did buy some tablets, but I'm not sure where I put them. I probably stored them in the freezer, but I have not found them yet.

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    Vietnamese shrimp & pork tapioca dumplings. I tried this once, but while they tasted fine, the tapioca dumpling skin did not work well at all. Gotta fix that.

    Japanese octopus balls, aka Takoyaki.



  • sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
    4 years ago

    Making maple is rather hilarious the first time. The drip flow can be torture. Go do something else and come back...10 gallons. We can get 15-20gallons in a weekend, 40 gallons is what we aim for over 2-3 weekends. We have 3 trees that can handle 3 taps each. Huge. 4 others 2 taps. 20 dozen or so up the hill is way over our head. Small batch babies we are....a half gallon maple syrup is more than we use in a year. Any extra we gift.

    I also freeze just the water in juice bottles. A few dozen. Or what I have room for. Not only ice for spring/summer coolers but as it thaws it is really good water for a hike. This time of year my freezer gets rather thin. This is usually our first tapping weekend being a three day holiday...just not perfect temps so far. (my commercial maple buddies with 2-3,000 taps have been at it for a few weeks now).

    I've only made the four easy cheeses so far...mozzarella, ricotta, Mexican queso, and a recent cream cheese with nuts and herbs.

  • Islay Corbel
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I've been experimenting making my own ham and am happy with the results now.

    The most recent thing is trying our the chefsteps recipes for the special cook in sous vide sauces. I tried the beurre blanc (with some haddock filets) and the poivre vert (with a pork roast). Not bad at all, even though their lists of ingredients are so long......and I have no idea what some are like creamy koji so I just leave it out lol. Brittany isn't ready for stuff like creamy koji.......

  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Here's a great article about salt koji.

    https://www.sfgate.com/recipes/article/Traditional-Japanese-koji-turns-into-versatile-4526837.php


    Here's a nice video about making it:





    I found this great quote. Excellent analogy: "Koji is to miso what malt is to beer."


    I've never before heard of "creamy" koji. As best as I can tell it's an advertising word used by one company for packaged koji, perhaps to mean blended. But I'm still not sure.


  • plllog
    Original Author
    4 years ago

    Sleevendog, what is "just the water" that you freeze? Is it a byproduct of reducing the maple sap into syrup?

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