If you want a more global perspective, check your listings for the BBC World News, which is probably on your PBS channel.

I rarely watch news on any channel, but I'm really enjoying my digital subscription to The Times (London). I get better US news from it than from the NYTImes, or even the Wall Street Journal, to which I also have digital subscriptions. The Times is cheap, too!

Great news on CNNs ratings. I heard there was a horrid storm hit Japan yesterday and tried find out how bad it slammed them. NOTHING to be found on either Fox or CNN. Well said "there are other important news events"!!!

I totally agree. I get most of my news off the internet. Generally the Yahoo side bar tells me of recent events. It's pathetic! And....I "used" to LOVE Anderson Cooper, Bill Maher, Ann Coulter....not any more. Rush Limbaugh used to make me ill, then I found myself listening to him on the radio the other day and liking what he said....!!! lol

When I want to hear the news other than the constant political garbage I watch NHK Newsline on PBS. It's out of Japan but it's the English audience version and it is strictly news, absolutely no political sway, void of any editorials, and very refreshing. Most of what PBS dishes out other than that is too swayed politically for me.

the only ones I will listen to are Fox (and our local Fox) and Newsmax. the others are totally biased and hateful. They are part of the promoting of hatred in this country. I used to listen to Rush on the car radio but haven't listened to the radio in years. I do see (and enjoy listening to) him when he is on Fox.

Our local source for international news has dried up. There was a channel that carried BBC world news, France 24, Deutchse, Al Jazeera, and NHK. Now we only see France 24, and that is 90% news about French-speaking countries.

Regardless of how one feels about a news topic, it should be presented objectively. News the last several years is a great classroom exercise in identifying loaded words.

DH and I were journalism majors. TV is not 'journalism' -- it's ENTERTAINMENT -- and totally focused on the US. I like BBC news online. We read our local Chicago Tribune, although the news/some features ratio has completely reversed to where even the business section is loaded with 'management advice' that most people my age learned before they started HS. FOX is outright lies. CNN and MSNBC will chew everything to death.

I don't watch any of the US cable news channels. I've heard too many ridiculous assertions from both sides of the political spectrum. I will listen to the BBC (on PBS) on the radio. I mostly get my news from the daily newspaper.

Don't get me started on how those talking heads screwed up the Republican debates by focusing 80% (IMO) on Trump. Now they are doing the same by pretty much selecting the Democratic candidates that will get attention. Can anyone tell me why a smaller town mayor is qualified to be president? or an EX- 2 term representative, ex-city councilman? Why isn't Hickenlooper, who has been engaged in national issues, and has been governor of a large state, even getting a mention in news stories about candidates that ALWAYS talk about O'Rourke and Buttegieg?

It is the same for me with news stories online or in print (seen in my local paper). I think that the Washington Post is "all in" on anti-Trump, and by extension anti-Republican, anti- even moderate/conservative, so I read their stories with an eye on the bias (sometimes I am pleasantly surprised, though.) The NYT is better in my opinion, USAToday seems to be more evenhanded as well , the AP often sends out stories with a built in "of course this liberal position is the correct one" point of view - and I mean what are supposed to be news stories, not opinion pieces.

I came across a local radio station that bills itself as the alternative talk radio -- eg it is presenting a liberal point of view. The host of the program that I happened to hear flatly stated that Mike Pence wanted women to register their reproductive cycles with the state when he was governor of Indiana. Stated that as a fact, not as mockery or satire! No wonder people can't seem to find a middle ground anymore.

PBS Newshour, BBC World, and France 24 are my favorites for broadcast, though on the whole, I prefer reading the news.

PS I feel like CNN and Fox are both heavily invested in feeding the Trump phenom for the sake of making a buck, not the good of the country. The incentives are perverse.

I heard that last night Tucker Carlson said white supremacy isn't a "real problem" in the United States. What's sad is his gullible viewers will believe it. Facts be damned.

“the only ones I will listen to are Fox (and our local Fox) and Newsmax. the others are totally biased and hateful.”

?? Are you saying FOX isn’t biased?

Cable news outlets are mostly commentary not reporting. People who like a certain news outlet like it because they agree with the outlet’s slant.

I don’t expect CNN or FOX to report just the news, does anyone anymore? Local stations are usually better because they have to tell a story in a short amount of time.

No matter how you feel about the President I don't think you should resort to name calling, i.e. "blithering idiot".

The UK's ambassador to the US, a career employee of the highly regarded British diplomatic service (so not a political type) who recently resigned, said this:

"We don't really believe this Administration is going to become substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable; less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept"

Boris Johnson, now UK Prime Minister, once said this about something Trump said:

"a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him, frankly, unfit to hold the office of president of the United States"

He's an embarrassment to our country. Recognize what the rest of the world thinks, other than the few dictators with whom he's on regular speaking terms. And they likely think the same of him too, he's easily manipulated and all have done so.

Shopping, tell that to the president.

And they likely think the same of him too, he's easily manipulated and all have done so.

Especially Putin.

Elmer - thanks for taking this thread down into the proverbial toilet. Perhaps you should take your opinion over to the Hot topics forum where it will be welcomed.

LoneJack, Elmer's just the messenger. Trump has done this himself.

Elmer...YOU DIDN'T VOTE! You didn't endorse either party. You have to at least vote, which is taking a stance, before I'm going to listen to your political views.

nicole, you can listen to or ignore anything you want.

The political scene isn't a poker game. Voting is not an "ante-up" move. Plenty of people, maybe half the eligible voters or more at any one time, don't vote. Are they disqualified from having or voicing opinions? I hardly think so.

I voted in the 2016 election, there were things I wanted to support. For president, I abstained because for me neither of the two major candidates (the only ones viable) were both qualified and electable. For me, it was a contest of two losers so I abstained from casting a vote on that portion of the ballot (which is an accepted and valid political choice). That doesn't disqualify me or anyone else from having an opinion.

I don't endorse or broadly have much in common issue wise with either of the major two parties and I haven't for a long time. Not that it matters to this discussion but my registration is "No party preference". Absent changes in the doctrines of either, for me that won't change.

Andie - Hot Topics is the forum for such opinions to be expressed not KT.

The thread was basically a discussion of what news source members preferred and why. Unfortunately it strayed off topic.

LoneJack, you need to reread the OP. It was obviously political from the get go. I don't know if you've spent any time on Hot Topics, but it's hard to have real discussions over there with the constant disruption and outright lies brought by a number of posters. I have no idea why that's allowed.

Anglo, thanks for the Times suggestion. I signed up. Quite a bargain at £5 per month.

I am done with CNN and Fox news. 24 hour a day pro or anti Trump messages. There is NO news at all and I am sick of the endless commentary. I read my news from several websites but I do watch a local channel to see what is going on in the community.

Zalco, isn’t that an amazing price? It takes me a long time to read the entire paper - love the email daily summary if I don’t have time. It’s very nice to see reporting of facts, not opinion disguised as journalism.

No matter how you feel about the President I don't think you should resort to name calling, i.e. "blithering idiot".

Tell that to the king of name calling.

Unfortunately, not an idiot. President Putin has a game plan to divide the United States, and it's working out very well for him. (Who *else* stands to gain by weakening America?)

Have you tried Canada's national broadcaster, at www.cbc.ca for news on radio or TV? All free, and they offer multiple music channels and podcasts - all free.

Also Sirius 169, I think - contact cbc.ca for info.

Substantial news and some commentary, and some of it related to the president and administation of our large neighbour, yes, but there's a limit. Rather heavy emphasis on Canada but there's a substantial component of international issues, as well.

You might find Globe and Mail newspaper of Toronto interesting, as well, but don't have info on how much allowed free or fees.

ole joyful

We use streaming TV service and are lucky enough to get Reuters news. Intelligent, internationally balanced and great photos. I might slit my throat if it came down to either fox or cnn.

I think the Times has been more establishment and Tory-leaning in the last 50 years than all but the most obviously Conservative supporting papers.

The Economist, produced in weekly editions, is a great publication. Interesting, authoritative and entertaining (because of its irreverence) at the same time. Despite its title, it's news oriented covering all regions of the world and not particularly so to matters of economics or business as its title would imply.

Except for Hearst's operations earlier in the 20th century and other purveyors of political or yellow journalism in the past, US newspapers have a tradition of politically oriented editorial stances but reasonably independent news operations and a brick wall between the two. In the UK, many papers have long standing political orientations that affect both news and editorial reporting that blends together such that you don't know which is which. Not unlike what Fox News does here now.

Just in case you did not know there are several on line sites including CNN that you have the option to select international or US/National news.

You can always do a search for stories that interest you.

CNN has always been that way. They get on something and just work it to death. Back when that plane crashed in the sea, they just analyzed it until I nearly went mad listening. I kept thinking something new would come up, but it's amazing how they can go on and on when there is nothing new to say.

Fox is nothing but deplorable, period. IMO, what’s upsetting about CNN, MSNBC and the like is that they are continually falling into the trap of twitter distractions so the occupant of the white house can do his dirty work behind the scenes. We already know he’s a racist and will sink to any level needed to keep the attention on his twitter feed. The media needs to stop talking about Twitter talk and start setting off the alarms about the way he’s corrupting our government. He’s slowly dismantling any and all of the offices that would ring alarm bells over what he and his swamp are doing.

And while I’m at it, can I just say that he has the blood of all these victims on his hands. It is without question his fault. Maybe he can’t be held accountable legally, but I sure hope that he will be held accountable Civilly. Maddow had a really interesting story about that on her show last night. She didn’t come out and say that people should sue him for damages but seeds were definitely planted through the history lesson she gave.

Even if you didn’t vote during the last election, I hope that everyone will vote this time around. One way or another he needs to go.

LOL You aren't really taking these "News" channels seriously? They are for

entertainment and ratings and an avenue for the owners to put their beliefs

out there. Watch your local nightly news.....or even the Network nightly

news for a better coverage of just "what is happening in your World", without

the reader's opinion. Good luck if you are looking for a channel that is going to echo every belief you have. Remember...those who disagree are also looking for "their belief"

channel.

"the only ones I will listen to are Fox (and our local Fox) and Newsmax. the others are totally biased and hateful."

That's the funniest thing I've read all week!

We can blame CNN for creating an appetite for news with its nonstop coverage of the Gulf War. Until then, broadcasters provided news only because it was a requirement -- stipulated in their licenses to broadcast. News was unprofitable.

Once broadcasters realized they could *sell news* -- that advertisers would pay to sponsor news, the race began to fill the air 24/7 with "news". We went from hearing a few minutes' roundup of actual news to endless yammering that only claims to be news, much less "Breaking News".

Turn off Broken News. Learn to recognize propoganda. Who or what interests own the TV and radio stations in your area? Who publishes your local newspaper, and what interests does it serve? Consider The Source and look for the 'slant' before believing what you hear or read.

Honestly? I could care less about the local news. I don’t want to listen to 30 minutes or an hour of stories that are centered around the day’s murders in Detroit.

I don’t think it’s very hard NOT to believe or agree with the bias of the anti Trump stations. My G*d, his incompetence and authoritarian behaviors are hard to ignore. All one has to do is to wake up, open their ears and eyes and actually believe what they are seeing for what it truly is. He’s a racist, who’s also narcissistic. He’d sell his kids if it meant he’d come out ahead on the deal.

"Fox doesn't do that and has never felt a constraint to stick with facts.

Fox News is a propaganda outlet. Its intent to be such, cloaked in a false facade of "news", is obviously apparent to any reasonable observer."

just what I think of CNN, CBS, NBC etc. they are the blithering idiots. That's where I hear continual hate speech and personal attacks on those who don't agree with their leftist beliefs. Trump otoh is out to do good for our country and people. He has already done a lot of that, and continues to work to do more.

"the only ones I will listen to are Fox (and our local Fox) and Newsmax. the others are totally biased and hateful."

That's the funniest thing I've read all week!

we certainly have different views on what is biased and hateful. I haven't yet heard anyone on Fox suggest that its listeners go out and harass those with opposing views. I've heard many, many on the left do that, including dem members of congress. otoh Fox does have its liberals - like Shep, Wallace and Williams. I don't watch them.

The left has a movie coming out next month called The Hunt. It's liberals hunting people, 'the deplorables'. The left encouraging this hatred and those like Antifa.

I think you don't know the essential substantive difference between factual comments you dislike hearing or disagree with versus made up, wholly fictional or intentionally incendiary comments you like.

So I just looked up the plot of The Hunt:

Twelve strangers wake up in a clearing. They don’t know where they are, or how they got there. They don't know they've been chosen… for a very specific purpose … The Hunt. In the shadow of a dark internet conspiracy theory, a group of globalist elites gathers for the very first time at a remote Manor House to hunt humans for sport. But the elites’ master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty Gilpin, GLOW), knows The Hunters’ game better than they do. She turns the tables on the killers, picking them off, one by one, as she makes her way toward the mysterious woman (two-time Oscar® winner Hilary Swank) at the center of it all.

Where does it say anything about liberals?

Needless to say, Fox News has been having a field day
with the film's story. We'll wait to see the film and judge for
ourselves whether it ultimately works as satirical entertainment or not,
and whether it does, indeed, cross any cultural lines. As always, "good
taste" can be very subjective—is The Hunt any better or worse than The Purge franchise, for instance? (Jason Blum produced both, along with Get Out.)
But given the current political environment headlined by peak partisan
tensions and a nation trying to simultaneously grieve and seek solutions
following recent mass shootings in El Paso, Texas; Dayton, Ohio; and Gilroy, California, Universal's decision to pull back on its marketing campaign seems like a wise business decision.

Doesn't sound like any movie I'd want to see.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/08/universal-stops-marketing-the-hunt-after-most-recent-deadly-mass-shootings/

My son works for an international PR firm in their NYC office. He is the one who first told me how the various cable news stations decide on a "story" and then give it all their time and attention. The more they've bought into this story, the longer they will run with it. All the various networks do this, but CNN and MSNBC are notorious for the length of theirs.

I only watch cable news if there has been a true catastrophe, such as 9//11. I particularly liked Aaron Brown on CNN as he was calm and clear. Unfortunately, he was edged out by Anderson Cooper during Katrina when Anderson went to NOLA and cried on the air and people loved it. I think he then went on to teach journalism for a few years. He was truly outstanding and highly professional.

I'm flabbergasted that anyone thinks that RushLimbaagh is anything but a blowhard.

Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. His schtick is offensive to me, but let's be clear, he is not a purveyor of news, or informed opinion.

I still remember when Rush was a small town radio personality working for KFBK in Sacramento back in the 1980s. He was much more likeable back then and a lot less full of himself. I used to hear him while I was waiting for the traffic report to come on and recall that I was driving either to or from from work the day he announced that his show was going national.

I only watch Calgary area news. I stopped watching national and international news about a year ago. I used to scoff at people who couldn't take watching the sad stuff that goes on in the world, but I found it affected me mentally really bad. So now, it's just city news.

RE: Limbaugh -- today I heard him repeat the falsehood that Ted Cruz' father was involved in the Kennedy assassination. I had the station still on from listening to local traffic reports as I drove back from OOT last evening.

People need to realize that the talk radio hosts, both "liberal" and "conservative", have no problem with repeating, even creating, lies in order to please their audience.

"The left has a movie coming out next month called The Hunt. It's liberals hunting people, 'the deplorables'. The left encouraging this hatred and those like Antifa."

Apparently the movie is a satire thriller. The way you describe it was probably something you heard on Fox or from someone like Limbaugh. Sounds like a "Hunger Games" sort of film. Not my taste. I wish people wouldn't blame an entire group for the actions of a few, whichever side you are on and yes, people are taking sides unfortunately. Sometimes, that is necessary.