Heavily compacted lawn soil after construction project
Aurora Tee (Zone 6a)
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Gross Lawn Rehab; fixing weeds, compaction, rodents, etc.
Comments (29)Re: the rehab and what I did right or wrong.... 1) I would not install sod next time in the first place. I would get the exact seed that I want and call in a hydro-seeder. 2) Really make sure to scalp the lawn. I mean cut it really short! Nothing taller than 1/2". Anything taller than that and it mats down under the top dressing which means the seed won't take because the grass underneath creates an air pocket that kills the new grass, but KBG doesn't grow through like some of the warm season grasses. 3) With KBG I'd do it in May if I had a choice. There are going to be weed problems whenever you expose fertile soil, but it is manageable. Forget about the weed issues because there is an easy solution there with KBG. But KBG takes a LONG time to come in from seed. The one thing that doesn't help is if it starts to get cold before it really starts growing well. IOW, if you wait till Sept to avoid some of the weeds and it starts to drop below 50*F in Oct, it'll be till late next spring before things start to look good again. The important issues with KBG are moisture and soil temp. May/June is best IMO. 4) Do it all in one shot! If there are low spots that will require more than the suggested 1/4" top dressing, just go ahead and fill them in. Don't wait! Have your preferred seed on hand and get that thing level the first time. This work is too strenuous to be doing it more than once. Little touch-ups later are to be expected, but get it 90% done in the first shot. 5) Anything more than 4,000sf you should try to locate a mechanical spreader for the top dressing and drag the lute or chain link around with a lawn tractor. 6) This is a point of debate, but... Currently the Orbit sprinkler heads are much better than the Rainbirds. Make sure that your sprinklers are exactly how you want them before doing anything with the lawn. And yes, sand isn't great for them, but it is pretty easy to fix. There are probably more that I'll include later....See MoreBackyard project - Soil compaction for new sod
Comments (17)If it were me I wouldn't be digging it up either. But before I tired the Bobcat thing I'd talk to a knowledgeable excavator about the possibilities. I'd go with continued watering, hoping for some good natural rainfall to help out. I built a new 6' x 40' 12" raised island bed over the past winter. We filled it with 6 yards of premium soil, and tried to settle it without compaction as we did. I watered for several weeks and not much settling. Then we got our first good Gulf coast storm system (aka toad strangler). The result after that was a solid 1" settle. Be patient, it will settle. In the OP you mentioned irrigation and sod. I trust you haven't installed the irrigation yet, which is fortunate. An option you might want to consider for now, while you wait for nature to do the work, is to seed the area with an annual grass. Not sure what grows in your area, but there are several decent annual ryegrasses that could be used. Some local turfgrass experts should be able to guide you. Not only will that give you neat short-term coverage, which will please Ms. Punkaweedus, but the root growth action may help settle the soil. Then in the fall or next spring you can easily get rid of it and finish the project. BTW - Bobcat has many models, including some with ~ 36" width. This post was edited by TXEB on Fri, May 10, 13 at 19:03...See MoreNew Construction, compacted soil, need to plant grass seeds, what next
Comments (13)There is a lawn forum on Garden Web that might be a more appropriate spot for your question and has a bunch of experts/enthusiasts. Be sure to say where you are when you post since advice is often based on location. http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/lawns FWIW, in my area the idea time to seed or overseed a lawn is early fall, around mid-September when the soil is warm but the air is starting to cool some. To seed a lawn now, you will need to top it with straw (not hay) or other light mulch to help keep the soil moisture as even as possible and reduce the likelihood of seed washing away. Investing in a hose and sprinklers will help keep the soil moist, not only now but all summer if there isn't sufficient rain. You can overseed in the fall for any areas that didn't take well. Adding some white clover to the mix may help the soil fertility over time, but will give you a somewhat different look than an all grass lawn. Depending on your budget, getting it hydroseeded after you do your soil prep may be helpful and give you a better result, though it will cost more than seeding it yourself....See MoreRye grain to break up compacted lawn soil - bad idea or good idea?
Comments (10)Biggest advocate? or are you feeling lazy today? Well I suppose I am an advocate, but only because I was so shocked that it worked so well. Even my wife, who thinks my lawn care ideas are a little scary at times, sees the benefit and carries a bottle of soap into the garden with her if she finds some hard soil. I had developed a method to soften hard soil, but it took weeks for just a small area unless you invested heavily in soaker hoses. I had been reading morph and others raving about using a specially formulated concoction of soap powders that morph came up with. The problem with that was I didn't want a lifetime supply of powders. So I tried doing it with shampoo, baby shampoo to be specific. It worked fantastically over a large area, quickly, and seemingly permanently. After spraying with the shampoo (3 ounces per 1,000 square feet), then every time it rained my soil became so soft it was difficult to walk on. It was like walking on fluffy beach sand. It firms up again as the soil dries out. Apply like this. Use a hose end sprayer. If you have 3,000 square feet to spray, pour 9 ounces of shampoo into the sprayer. Fill it the rest of the way with water and spray it at any setting to evenly cover the entire area. It doesn't matter if you miss spot or go heavy. You can redo it any time. Morph has tried to overdo it by applying far too much of his soap and never encountered any damage from too much soap. Give it about 3 weeks and you should see a dramatic improvement. One of the guys on that other forum he mentioned had a limb fall off a tree and embed itself 24 inches deep into his soap-softened soil. How does it work? Tons of research has been done using surfactants like Cascade Plus (not the dishwasher soap) on golf courses. Those are focusing on a slightly different aspect of the wetting issue, but it is related. My theory is that the shampoo allows water to penetrate much deeper into the soil which changes the ecosphere down there. The moisture keeps the soil at a more constant temperature and humidity. This is the perfect environment for the beneficial fungi which live in the soil. Those guys are the ones softening the soil for you. You don't have to do anything as long as you are keeping them fed (organic fertilizer) and watered. You can find that other forum by searching for his name and mine in the same search. Find the forum where they do the soil tests and read how to get started. Logan Labsis the place to get the soil tested. Get the Standard $25 test. As morph mentioned, hard soil is often not clay but an imbalance in salts. If you treat for clay, the salt problem will keep the soil hard. If you treat for salts, and it was clay, then you haven't fixed it either. Get the soil tested and read. You didn't mention timing for when you did what you did, so I'm going to give you a general calendar for lawn care. NOW: apply a preemergent herbicide to take care of weeds that are about to sprout. The preemergents last about 3 months, so the benefit should take you through awakening in late March or early April. Also now, do not feel the pressure to fertilize the lawn. It will not need fertilizer until Memorial Day in late May. You'll see all the feed stores advertising fertilizer saying "NOW IS THE TIME." Now is not the time. Memorial Day is the time. Mid April: Spot spray weeds with something like Weed-b-Gon or Weed-b-Gon Chickweed, Clover, and Oxalis Killer. Those are different products. The WBG CCO is a stronger product. Late May: fertilize with your choice. My choice is organics from the feed store. I like alfalfa pellets (rabbit chow) or corn meal. In your area you'll find soybean meal much cheaper than I can get it here. Soybean meal is a better fertilizer, so get that in a 50-pound bag. Apply at a rate of 15 pounds per 1,000 square feet. You cannot over apply soybean meal either. If you accidentally double it - fine. If you spill the bag on the ground, use a rake to spread it out or a leaf blower to keep from smothering the grass. No harm done, though. That spot would become the greenest spot in the yard in about 3 weeks. Mid August: Overseed the grasses of your choice. I would stick with normal lawn grasses like turf type tall fescue, rye, and/or Kentucky bluegrass. Labor Day: fertilize again Mid September: Spot spray the weeds only if you feel the need. Thanksgiving (or there abouts): Winterize the lawn after it stops growing but before you get a hard frost. The roots will still be working underground to absorb the nitrogen and hold it for spring 2022 when the grass awakens. Use a high N like 45-0-0 fast release. Basically urea. Also what is your watering schedule. All I've said here sort of depends on regular watering. If you don't water and rely on rain to water the grass, then you can just forget all this and accept the weeds as a result....See MoreAurora Tee (Zone 6a)
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