I didn't include measurements of our current ovens but can do that if necessary. Right now I'm most concerned with reliable brands that people here have liked.

I confess to major appliance anxiety. I've also considered a Wolf but we'd need to go with a single oven, which is do-able, if not ideal. Otherwise we're facing sticker shock. We could afford the double but the extra money isn't necessarily worth it. I'll check out Bosch. .

Check out the Bosch 500. It's what I'm putting in my new kitchen. I had a Bosch 800 in my old kitchen. Worked great but I don't need all those bells and whistles

Had Miele ovens before and liked them so much I didn't even look at anything else for my remodel. They are pricey, so both times I bought previous models to save money. Never had any problems with the self-clean, and I used it a lot. I bought my Capital range top from these folks at a significant savings.

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My personal opinion is that current models of medium to mainstream brands (so not aga etc) have all declined in quality. I just replaced a 12 year old single wall oven JennAir and it never functioned properly (convection essentially designed so as not to work) and fried its co troller brain twice at $300 a pop (from heat, duh, which rises from oven to panel). I’d encourage you to try all models you might be interested in, at least to feel them.

i used a Bosch in a rental unit and the controls, etc made me nuts. Handled a GEbrand and the slide out racks felt tippy. YMMV. Good luck!

So much of your experience mirrors ours. 2 fried controllers, 3 counting the cooktop. This was for a newly remodeled kitchen where everything else looks great. The various repair people wouldn't ever remove the oven till I agreed not to ask for reimbursement for drywall damage,,,so there's that too. Drywall damage. It's all so ugly. I'm still cooking meals nearly every night but all the extra appliances...portable induction burners, large toaster oven, etc... clutter up the kitchen.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Wilson- did you have them shipped? Which models?

We've had our Thermador double ovens for 4 years now with no problems. One caveat, I've never used the self-cleaning feature because I'm afraid after reading all the scary results that have happened to other people.

The BEST thing about the ovens is the self close feature. Wouldn't get an oven without that in the future.

I just bought a Bertazzoni double oven and I’m thrilled with it. I had a Bosch before. I highly recommend Bosch. 10 years, no repairs. I got a really really good deal on the Bertazzoni - made it cheaper than the Bosch. My mom has a GE Monogram oven and it’s been working great. I don’t think any of the ovens survive well during the self-clean cycle. Lots of complaints for all the brands.

CK squared - which model of Thermador, if you don't mind saying?

J Corn, in the previous kitchen I had Miele double ovens H398BP2. Currently I have two single 30" Miele H4884 ovens. One oven was an on-line purchase and was shipped with no issue. It was new in the crate and came on a pallet.

Thanks!

I have dual 30" Thermador Convection - 12 years issue free, but have only run self-clean once. Some folks early on complained about board issues but they did self clean - that seems to be the common denomination of electronics trouble. At least a once or twice a month I'm running both of my ovens at 500 or 525 together for a few hours at a time baking bread or pizza, so they can certainly handle the heat over the long haul, and the high seems to keep them clean. Can't tell you the exact model at the moment (at work) but they are the pro line but not telescoping racks (don't know if they had those back then). It was between Therm and Melie for me but Melie was SO much more expensive for features I didn't think I'd end up using.

I'll check out the Thermador. I also looked at all the rave reviews for the GE double wall oven, one with French doors and am intrigued by GE's guaranteed fit option. Might make installation easier.

Consider the Bosch Benchmark side opening oven for its ergonomic advantages.

@Wilson853 -- Did your new single 30" Miele H4884 oven fit into the cut-out that was left by one of your Miele H398BP2 double ovens, or did you have to re-configure the cabinet space on the sides? What did you put above or below the new single oven? (I am thinking of replacing my Miele H398BP2 double ovens.) Thanks!

eponymouse, it was a remodel. I eliminated my double oven stack and put the single ovens under the counter. I know that isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it worked best in our new layout.

Thanks, Wilson853!