Does reverting to Dr. Huey ever cease being a problem
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Comments (19)I think in the PNW multiflora rootstock does very well, so you can buy from Pickering and Palatine. I wanted to recommend you to check out Lynette, The Oldrosarian's website. She has a PNW garden with 6-800 roses to die for, with gorgeous photos and useful comments about every rose she grew. Alas, I cannot locate the website any more. Anyway, she gardens in British Columbia, and as far as I remember, she bought roses only grafted on multiflora and laxa. Dr. Huey is the rootstock for the alkaline soils in southern California and Arizona but you probably do not have alkaline soil in the rainy Seattle. As others already explained it, David Austin sells the right to certain nurseries to grow his roses. Some sell his roses own root, like Chamblee's, Heirloom, Vintage, RU, and some sells them grafted - for you the best choice is Pickering who has most of the Austins and their multiflora rootstock is grown from seeds so it is likely virus free. (So far I never got a virused rose from them - Austin or else). Own root, as others already explained you, does not mean that the rose will be virus free. Roses Unlimited announced a few years ago that they will clean up they virused inventory but that could not be done in such a short period of time considering the large variety they carry. There is a nursery on the west coast that guarantees (?) virus-free roses, Roses of Yesterday and Today if you want grafted plants and don't want to order from Canada, though Pickering is less expensive. And, Roses Y&T has very few plants grafted on multiflora but states that they sell only virus free plants. If you are willing to try bands, you have more choices: Northland Rosarium (WA), Heirloom (OR), Vintage (CA). I tried both Northland and Vintage and I was very happy with both though I was very reluctant to try bands. For bigger own roots you can check out Rouge Valley roses (OR)- they do not state that all their roses are virus free but accept the responsibility that no matter how many years later virus shows up they will reimburse you - so far this is the best guarantee I've read. Their selection is fantastic (unfortunately their shipping cost to the east coast is forbidding but for you it should be pretty good, I assume). Chamblee's (TX) has excellent 1 and 2 gallon own root roses, including some Austins, probably at the best price you can find. Their so-called Earthkind roses are the disease resistant ones. (Strangely enough they don't list Crepuscule among those while Crepuscule is one of my most disease resistant roses.)...See MoreRose overtaken by Dr. Huey?
Comments (14)I've known people who grew Huey, and it's sometimes strange to remember that, in its day, it was highly regarded. I actually rather like those Merlot Wine blooms myself. If you ever chance to visit Las Vegas in April, be sure to drive through the older neighborhoods, where hundreds of Dr. Huey's fountain and tumble through the little gardens. The only real bone I have to pick with the Doctor is that he rusts badly, here in CA, unless sprayed. Perhaps he won't do that for you. Some of the other rootstocks that have been used can be pretty lovely, too. If 'De la Grifferaie' was remontant, EVERYONE would want it. Manetti is gorgeous in the spring, and seems to be a pretty bush when out of bloom. Odorata -- well, it mildews here, but where that's not a problem, it's a gorgeous once-blooming, violet-scented tree-scrambler. Fortuniana is a beautiful rambler-type. It's remontant here in our mild climate. Mine came from an old cemetery, where it surely began life as rootstock. It's as big as a bus, these days. And for us, the prize of all of them is 'Gloire des Rosomanes,' ("Ragged Robin") which IMHO should be in every California garden. Jeri...See Morecan anyone explain how a rose 'reverts' ??
Comments (8)A mutation can arise by genetic accident, usually in a budeye, affecting everything above that point. If you have one red blend cane with red blend branches, it could be a mutation or sport. A mutation can "revert" to the original. For example, my Easy Going produced a cane bearing Livin' Easy flowers, LE being the original form and "sport parent" of EG. This is the proper use of "reversion." The genetic accident reversed itself in one budeye. Rootstock can take over from a weaker scion or grafted part. Poeple incorrectly call this "reversion." Possibly your shoots are from the very bottom of the bud union and are of Dr. Huey rootstock, which has a dark red flower smaller than LE. If the shoots were new this year and bloomed this year, it is not Dr. Huey. If they grew last year without blooming, it is Dr. Huey....See MoreHow Soon Can You Know A Rose Isn't Meant To Be?
Comments (24)It depends on the rose and the problem. I've found that I can accommodate a rose that isn't the color I'd hoped, or isn't the size I'd hoped (although I do try to move them) and I'll try for years. I can't bring myself to remove a healthy rose. But a rose that clearly isn't going to be healthy for me? Early removal is better than later. Blackspot is here to stay, sadly, so severely affected roses need to go bye-bye. Roses that aren't tolerant to heat and humidity also can't stay. Neither are roses that, for no good reason, begin to commit suicide as soon as they cross the property line. I watch slow growers. I try moving them. I give them more than a year, a lot more if they're generally healthy. But if they can't do what they're supposed to do here, we need to part company. I have several that I received this year, still in pots, that will need to find a new home. One, a Biltmore rose that I thought would surely be at home here, has gone through several cycles of leaf loss due to blackspot. Another came to me with chlorosis and it hasn't improved much. I will give it a little more time and see if it can get better. A third seems to be entirely unhappy here, although I've tried moving it and even repotting it. It will improve for a time, but then lose its leaves and look pathetic again. Surprising to me, since it was hybridized in Tennessee. I have only so much time, space and energy to put toward roses so they need to be able to thrive here. If they can't do that, I figure that I shouldn't have them and they shouldn't be here. I haven't always felt this way, but over time, I've realized that saying yes to a sickly rose or one that will never thrive means saying no to a rose that would be happy and do well here....See Moredublinbay z6 (KS)
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