Diane,

I think I found the same ebay auction. If you look at the last pic, it does seem to be clearly a grafted rose, and the other varieties this seller sells are normally available grafted as well. But I worry about whether they would even know if these ’own blood’ roses were in decent shape. We are late in the season and I’m concerned they just grabbed overstock to sell on ebay, which may be dessicated. Could you maybe check out your local Lowes and Home Depot? They had My Bouquet roses, which is Certified’s own brand, and they are the US distributor of Scentuous.

Ben, thanks so much for your advice. I was so insulted by this seller's reply that I told them it was meaningless to me--the part about own blood. So I said I wouldn't be buying the rose. Too bad. I was pretty blunt myself, but not really rude. I also had my doubts, like you mention, that the roses they were selling were in good shape. This seller deals in mostly non rose goods, and that must be the reason for the 100% positive feedback. In the old days on eBay, it was almost impossible to get perfect feedback. Both sellers and buyers were blunt as heck. This was before credit cards, Paypal, photos by sellers, and everything was an auction. Those were the days. And it was kind of fun. I got paid mostly by check and only had one check bounce, which was promptly made good, I still remember, This was out of a couple of thousand sales. I got a lot of money orders. Money orders?? What the heck. And some cash stuffed in an envelope occasionally..... Back to Home Depot....I got on a waiting list because this rose was sold out. They will notify me if any more stock comes in, but I'll bet it's next year. Grace Rose Farm has Scentuous as a two gallon potted plant for big bucks, but until I get my Ashley from Grace, I'm not buying anything more from them. Ashley was supposed to be a two gallon potted plant, but I'll bet to get it into Idaho, they have to remove the soil and strip off the leaves. Sigh. I think I'll google My Bouquet Certified roses and do some other searching. Thanks again. Diane

Judi - yes, lol, but they have to fit in the garage during winter. :) :) And for some reason, my husband doesn't want to park the car on the driveway all winter....the nerve! lol Your Scentuous blooms are lovely...and the 2nd picture is (sing it with me) GORGEOUS!!!!!! :) :)

Diane - I'm glad you didn't buy from her.

Diane

I think you made a wise decision not getting Scentuous from that Ebay seller. The prices were high and they probably didn’t have the facilities to keep a bare root fresh. Surely someone else still has it.

Home Depot is out of stock and I don't mean just locally, but I'm on their waiting list. Certified Roses is not shipping this late, and it may be out of stock, anyway. It's OK if I have to wait. Until I get Ashley, if I ever do, from Grace, I don't want to acquire too much. I'll be picking up my new Angel Face in a couple of weeks, too. I appreciate your concern, and I'm glad you agree that it was probably best not to patronize that eBay seller. Carol agrees. Diane

So it lasted a pretty long time April 18th bud 10 days through today.

Carla

Carla - that's impressive!

Carla, yours lasts much longer than mine, which last about 3 days. i wonder if it is climate related?

Hi Nose

We've mostly been in 70's, so I will have to see what 90's do!

Ben lives not far from me, his Scentuous last summer would be a better barometer.

Carla   

@Diane Brakefield - https://allmythyme.com/shop/ols/products/scentuous-rose-potted

Grafted on Dr. Huey.

I don't know anything about the seller, but I saw this today.

My second flush is incredibly ruffley, and I am officially in love with this Rose!

Carla

Beautiful, Carla! Do you like the scent now?

Nose

Oh yes, the smell is DELICIOUS.

I'm in love!

Carla

Carla - that's really!!! beautiful!!!

Here's

Gorgeous Mx Chino

I currently have two and it is quickly becoming a beloved rose.

One plant is in the front yard and gets half a day of sun (morning). it was plant last spring and is taking a little longer than the one in the back yard to get going. it had put out ruffly fewer pettled flowers consiconsistently since late may. The picture below is some of its earlier flowers. its cutrently putting on quite a bit of growth and setting its largest number of buds this year.

The plant in the backyard is currently in at the end of a good sized flush. Most of its flowers were ruffley with low petal count until yhe last two candelas started flowering they have had a much higher petal count.

low petal count

The much more full flowers that ended the flush:

Christian -thanks for your account of the progression growing this exceptional variety, it's a beauty. At some point I'd love to add one to my garden.

@berrypiez6b she really is a beauty especially for a young rose for me, usually its their thrid year they really start to impress me so i cant wait to see what she’ll do in 2025.

below is the front bed plant i think i count 24 clusters of buds forming.

below is a photo of the full blooms from the backyard plant after a day with a high of 105 degree temperatures.

AMAZING !

Really beautiful! I wish I could smell them!

noseometer, she and PCdM and a Peaches and Cream honeysuckle perfume the back corner of the yard where they are planted.

That must be heavenly, Christian! I’m ready to give PCdM another try.

Mx Chino - such a beautiful rose bush!! I'm so impressed!! I want one. :)

Christian - so it's heat tolerant too? Fabulous rose!! So romantic looking. :) And best of all, it's fragrant!!

Scentuous is an Evers/Tantau rose originally named Gartentraume, or Garden Dream. I'm a broken record about this, but the late Hans Evers, was a rose genius==think Ascot, Augusta Luise, Chippendale, etcetc. Christian Evers is now carrying on with rose breeding for Tantau (Ashley, for example). Diane

Diane - yes, their beauty is beyond compare. :)

So true, and Christian's rose is spectacular. Diane

@rosecanadian it makes me so happy to see her handling the heat well i was nervous because her petal substance seems so delicate like a David Austin. Im currently away from my gardens. I am hoping my plant that is working on a fflush will be cracking color when i get home Sunday and the other one that was finishing a flush will be starting to push a new set of buds.

Diane, I have been dying to get my hands on a Tantau rose ever since I first saw your photos of AL. Scentuous is a great first rep for Tantau I Am hoping to get my hands on more in the next few years.

What and incredible variety and color!

Christian - Post pictures when you can...love to see your new blooms. :)

Yes, neighbor Christian. Go Tantau. I love your roses and hibiscus. I've lived in Nampa and grew up in Caldwell and graduated from Caldwell High School. I have friends and family all over Canyon County. Diane

Ascot

Augusta Luise

Bernstein Rose

My little Ashley. She is coming along.

Oh, Diane!!! Your Augusta Luise steals the show!!! What utterly gorgeous blooms!!!! Happy sigh. :)

Diane, lovely photos as always. I saw a listing for AL on Etsy, the shop also had listings for other Tantau roses like Admiral, Chippendale, Maxim, Eisvogel, and Capri, plus a ton of Japanese and Chinese roses.

I havent taken the leap, etsy seems like such a lawless wild west type of place when it comes to selling plants and I don’t know if I’m brave enough to embark on that journey.

What was the etsy shop ?

My concern, first, is that the rose hybridizers and growers are being compensated for their product and intellectual property with binding contracts like ethical sellers sign. My next concern is that that a good quality rose plant in healthy condition, and the correct rose, is sent to me promptly for my prompt payment. And I don't trust the sellers on Etsy much. Diane

I am with you Diane. I just didn't want to paint a wide picture for those that do it here on etsy Add here adhere.

Diane those are bug concerns of mine also, the fact that we also live in an agricultrual state with many laws and regulations. I doubt most etsy sellers know of them or abide by them. I know roses would seem like one of the last plants to pose a threat to the agricutural industry but you never know what hitchhikers might be on or in a plant coming in unchecked from out of state, the japanese beetles got their start around Warm Springs in Boise thanks to a batch of roses from the mid west in 2012ish which is why any plant coming from that part of the country (or any part of the country with a known population) now have to come in bare root.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley Egronzi i believe is the name of the store.

The start of the new flush for thr plant in the front bed.

Christian, I guessed it was the Japanese beetles that got the Ag Dept to strictly banning plant imports, bare root or not, any plant, from Jackson & Perkins, Park Seed, Wayside Gardens, and Edmunds Roses up until about a year ago. Before that, Antique Rose Emporium could ship to Idaho with the leaves stripped off the rose and in no soil. From what I've read, the Japanese Beetles were eradicated after serious intervention on those locations in town. Luckily, nothing has come out here in the hills. .....What is the lovely bloom just above? Diane

Diane i forgot to mention that is my scentuous plant in the front she is beginning a new flush. She still hasnt produced flowers that are heavily petalled as my other plant.

As far as the beetles go i guess Caldwell has a few place being treated for them. fortu fortunatelyit seems our dry climate resticts their movemneand population growth. I first learned about them in 2014 while i was going to school at CWI for an associates in horticulture.

Christian, I've noticed out here that the insect population is pretty small, as far as pests go. A couple of grasshoppers in nearly 20 years, a very rare mosquito. A few aphids. No JBs, no Midge, no rose slugs, a few earwigs, and a few thrips on my Evelyn roses, Augusta Luise, and The Prince. Thrips are a temporary problem in spring, and I ignore it. And no fungal diseases on roses, which is probably the same as your garden. About now, the crickets and locusts are making lots of noise and so are the backyard birds. We do have lots of bumble bees, which disappeared for a couple of years, much to my dismay, but they're back all over the place, and there are plenty of honey bees, some leaf cutters, and other types. We do have some wasps and yellow jackets, but not bad, and always have some praying mantids. I wish we had more butterflies, though. Lots of hummers. How wonderful that you got your AA in horticulture. Next for you is your BS from Oregon State U--ha. I think your Scentuous above will acquire more petals as time goes on. Right now, it's so hot here that lots of my roses have fewer petals. Oh, about 10 years ago, we had some icky black blister beetles that were obsessed with yellow flowers, mainly calendula. I must have popped hundreads with my gloves of death, and they have never been able to come back here. Have you had such an experience in Nampa? Diane

My Scentuous looked so bad in May/June that I thought it was dying. I mean it looked BAAAAD. So I dug it out, put it in a pot in the shade, and now it's going to town. It wasn't in a super hot place before, but it was getting constant drizzle in our May Gray/June Gloom, and many of my stalwart roses were covered in rust and PM and looking like POOP. But this was one of the worst, and on my front walkway. So I cut nearly everything off and started over in a pot. It's looking gorgeous now! I love the scent and the flower form. So pretty. BTW - Diane -- in Year 3, Scentuous is definitely a front of the border rose for me -- maybe 3' tall?

DD I could've written the same post you did, word for word! My Scentuous was also looking so bad after she did so well initially after purchase. And I did the same as you did, except mine was already in a pot. So I changed the potting mix, stripped off everything, put her in a more shaded area. Doing great now. It's night now so I'll post pics tomorrow.

Diane, I get a few earwigs here and there but never enough to be a huge concern, and almost no disease except for the very rare and very small bought of powdery mildew. I’ve seen a handful of grasshopers this year. I do have quite the population of beneficials ive seen quite a few preying mantis and tons of honey bees and bumblebee, my neighbors behind/next to me are always jealous my low water bed which is mostly Penstemon and Agastache rupestris brings in the hummers (I never really see them because its a small bed outside of my fence along the side walk.

Ive never had a problem with blister beetles, Ive also never had to deal with box elder bugs.

@DDinSB (Z10b Coastal CA) you photo is lovely, sorry to hear that Scentuous seems a bit more tempermental in your climate.

the side bed the hummers love this spring.

A bumble on Princess Charlene de Monaco

a quick bush shot of front yard scentuous.

Deborah, could the poop be from rose slugs or some type of caterpillar? I used to get those little caterpillars on my petunias in midsummer, and they left the bitty poops around on the the plants. Lovely topic. Your Scentuous is just beautiful, and I hope to see more photos of it and Soozie's rose. Diane

Soozie Q -- I loved Scentuous so much in her first year that I bought a 2nd, and that one never did as well as the one in the front yard -- which gets morning sun/afternoon shade. So I gave away the one in back to a friend. Then this year we had sooo many weeks in a row with almost no sun and so much drizzle and mist, that most of my healthy roses got ugly, fast. This was one of the worst. So, I now think that Scentuous normally needs a bit of sun protection (here on the coast we have long days of sun once the may gray/june gloom lift) and in fall we get the drying winds that will crisp a plant. So I think in a normal year, Scentuous would have been fine/thriving in the front bed, but not this year. I may leave her in the pot so I can move her if I have to next spring to the full sun in back, then go in front again when the real sun comes.

Christian -- great photos! I love our hummers! They love the Mystic Spires Salvia and agastache and other salvias in my yard -- also the African Blue Basil. And the bees love these, too. So many native bees, and bumbles on them.

Diane -- Right now it seems like everything is attacking the garden (I was using POOP as a euphemism for something else). I've got gophers and moles and ground squirrels and deer and a coyote stalking my dog...not to mention grasshoppers, some kind of tiny little caterpillar (really going after my green beans!), and still slugs and snails. They are now hiding out on the underside of leaves of bigger plants. So gross. Just when I think it's not worth it to be at war all the time, I see the bees and butterflies and birds and the blooms, and my heart is just happy.

DD I think you're right about this rose needing a good spot like you mentioned. I'm so glad mine is in a pot so I can move it around. She hated being out in the sun all day here. She has recovered from the uglies, but the past 2 days we've had temps in the high 80s after weeks of moderate 70s, so the blooms aren't lasting very long. Here's some pics after I cut off some spent blossoms:

Soozie Q Gorgeous ruffly Scentuous, your planter arrangement is inspiring.

Soozie -- she looks very happy now! Gorgeous!

Thank you DD & Berrypiez. I really thought she was a goner at one point, esp since I got her as a coffin box rose @ HD. But I'm impressed at these "premium" boxes & the varieties. And only about $5 more than the other coffins. Can't wait to see the offerings next year.