Lawn Issues (North of Charlotte NC) Tall Fescue
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Tired of fescue in NC, need suggestions
Comments (22)Ok... DON'T TILL! You will sprout every flavor of weed and barnyard grass known to man.... Your "Yard" will be a 4 foot tall HAY FIELD full of crabgrass, Johnson grass, Barnyard grass, weeds, seedling trees, and every other type of weed seed that has landed in your yard in the last 5,000 years..... And.. It will be a lumpy mess.... Ok... So... You killed it... I would have advised waiting till late May/early June to do that.. but it's done... Sod it! May as well do it right now to take advantage of the remaining summer/fall before frost hits and it goes dormant.... Just for 1 data point... My builder set out TIF 419 sod in NOVEMBER last year... It never even greened up till Spring this year.... But.. Green up it did and it grew out just fine.... and this was 1 cold winter. On Manure.... Summertime cow manure isn't a good thing unless you want a yard full of old fashioned Common Bermuda and Crabgrass and weeds.... Down here in the south in the Summertime -- they feed cows Bermuda hay and Red Crabgrass hay because of problems with Fescue Toxicosis.... so you get tons of Bermuda and Crabgrass seed in that hay.... Unfortunately, it's not a new and improved "Yard" Bermuda.. but the old fashioned "Common" unimproved cow pasture Bermuda.... Pretty stalky and doesn't really fill in to make a dense, lush turf.... It's good if you want to run some cows, though... Thanks John...See MoreNew Lawn in Charlotte, NC
Comments (5)Start now to improve your soil. The clover has already started for you. 1. Fertilize with alfalfa pellets (rabbit chow) at a rate of 10 pounds per 1,000 square feet. Follow that up in 3 weeks with 20 pounds per 1,000 square feet. 20 is normal but 10 is needed to help the soil microbes get ready for the 20 later on. This is much more valuable than the starter fertilizer and the compost combined. You might still want starter (personal choice) but you definitely will not need compost if you do the alfalfa. Alfalfa is much cheaper, easier to apply, and more beneficial than compost. 2. Water deeply, 1 inch, all at one time. Do that once every week from now until mid August. 3. Mulch mow the yard on the mower's highest setting once per week. Get used to doing these three things because those are the basic steps for lawn care. Then in late August (or when the summer heat just starts to cool off) 1. Spray RoundUp on everything. 2. Water daily for 4 days trying to get new stuff and weed seeds to germinate. 3. After a week rake off all the dead stuff. 4. Water daily again for 4 more days. 5. Spot spray RoundUp on everything that is still green or has sprouted. 6. Rake up anything else you need to but otherwise do not disturb the soil. You are going to seed right onto the surface. 7. Spread the seed. 8. Roll the seed down with a water filled roller. 9. Start watering 3x per day for just long enough to moisten the soil and seed. That should be about 5-10 minutes each time. If you plant only fescue you will need to continue this for 2 weeks before you see any grass seed sprouting. Continue with the 3x per day until you get about 80% germinated. If you add 10% Kentucky bluegrass to you grass seed (which I strongly encourage for the sunny areas), then you will need to continue the 3x per day for at least 3 weeks before the KBG sprouts. 10. After you have about 80% of the grass sprouted, start to back off on the 3x per day. Go to 1x per day but water 3x longer (15 minutes). When the grass is tall enough to mow at the highest setting on your mower, then back off on the daily watering to every other day for 20 minutes. Next time you mow back off again to every third day for 30 minutes. While you are doing this, use some cat food or tuna cans to measure how long it takes your sprinklers to fill the cans. That time is going to be your target time for watering. When you have mowed the grass 3 times, back off again to once per week and apply a full inch. If you decide the grass is too thin in the shady areas, NOW is the time to remedy that with more seed. Do not seed in the spring as that will bring crabgrass in. 11. Spot spray broad leaf weeds with Weed b Gone. Mist not drench. 12. After you have mowed 3 times, then consider another fertilizer app. It can be alfalfa again or it can be a starter fert. When you fertilize bare ground, there are no roots there to do anything with the fertilizer. It will wash through the soil before you have roots. I believe waiting is better. If you decide to fertilize with chemicals, you should apply once in late spring, once in early fall, and once in late fall. If you do this right you should not have to worry about crabgrass or other weeds. If you decide to continue with organics like alfalfa, you can apply those any time of year, rain or shine, without fear of hurting anything. They work completely different from chemical fertilizers....See MoreNeed help with my Bermuda/Tall Fescue Mixed Lawn
Comments (14)I suspect that's too much shade under the trees. Bermuda will not be the best for that spot. Ideally you would have seeded the bermuda in mid June to have the warmest conditions, but this year was not cooperating with the rain and overcast. Still you should have fit it in in the heat of summer for best results. That is crazy about the tree. Is the tree on her property or yours or smack in the middle? Are you renting or do you own the property? I would suggest taking down the chain link at this point, but don't waste the money if you're renting. It is amazing how much difference the deep and infrequent watering process makes. Also if you have not fertilized recently, you might try organic. I use alfalfa pellets or corn meal from Ful-o-Pep on Roland east of WW White. 50 pounds should be under $15 or $10. Application rate is 15 pounds per 1,000 square feet, and it takes 21 days to see the results. With this cold front it might take a few days longer if you were to put it down this weekend. If you buy it now and don't use it all, go ahead and use it all anyway. You cannot hurt anything by overdoing these products. If you leave it in the garage over the winter it will be buggy in the spring. It's still fine to use, but just a little icky. So next April is the time to evaluate what you want to do with the back yard. I think it could be too shady for bermuda. If it seems slow to awaken and turns thin, then shade is the problem. The best place to get St Augustine is Milberger's Nursery at 1604 and Bulverde Rd inside the loop. They sell 14 pallets of St Aug every day, so it's always fresh. Lowe's and HD sell 1-2 pallets per week, and it always looks diseased. Milberger's is also about 1/3 the price of Lowe's....See MoreTall fescue and kbg lawn in NC
Comments (12)Mine is starting to green up nicely now. Still a slight yellow tint in a few areas that are more exposed to frost than others but overall looking much better. If the warmer temps hold out as expected I should be mowing in another 2 to 3 weeks if the ground will dry out a little. Right now it's a bit soggy....See Morewvudave_charlotte_nc
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