Loving my Lady of Shallot + tips on another peach DA

8 years ago

She's still pumping out these beautiful blooms and it's November! But of course, this is California, aka the garden of Eden :). This is my first DA and I am much obliged to everyone here who enabled me to go with Lady of Shallot. I'm growing her as a climber, attaching canes to the east side of a wooden fence. As soon as I got a little lazy about that she threw out some LONG canes in the opposite direction of the fence--I can't imagine growing this as a bush unless you have a LOT of space. I need to take a picture because she does look a bit comical out there in the garden, but I just haven't had the heart to groom her on account of the luscious blooms that accompany those canes! This is her second year in the ground and she is HUGE (canes are about 8 ft long) and has put out bloom after bloom since spring. The blooms are not very large and only last a few days, but since she repeats fairly well and since I am in love with the color and shape of the blooms, I don't mind. The foliage is quite resistant here as well. So here's to enabling you!

Would also love to add a couple apricot/peach non climbing roses to the East side of the house. Looking for a similar color or something that would go well with the above photo. We have HOT summers here with many days in the triple digits, but this location will get morning sun and then be sheltered. I'd like something with a nice bush shape and am looking for 1 or 2 David Austins (or something with that petal packed look).

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8 years ago

DandyLioness..... I'm pleased to hear that your Lady of Shalott is blooming well for you there.... it's still in flower here too, until we get the frosts... whilst it's not perhaps my favourite rose, I quite like the strong, hot colours it produces. My neighbour loves it as she tells me that the blooms echo the colour of her wedding dress.

...I wonder if you might like another Austin called 'The Lady Gardener'.... here are a couple of photos from my garden... sometimes it's more orange-y, sometimes peachy pink, or paler, it seems to vary...

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rosecanadian
8 years ago
Oh, they're lovely!!!

These might go well,

Evelyn

Valencia - fantastic bush shape, flowering ability and staying power of the flowers.

Fragrant Cloud

And I know you didn't want a climber, but Night Owl is a stiff climber that blooms from bottom to top.

Have fun selecting your new roses!

Carol
User
8 years ago
Whoa Nellie. That is the gorgeous 'Lady of Shalott' that made me swoon. I think 'Lady Emma Hamilton' is close in color (bit more orange) and shorter. One tried and true way to chose companions is to use the colors in the flower, ie. golden yellow. Sorry I don't know about heat tolerance. Just had to say how beautiful those blooms are!
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Sara-Ann Z6B OK
8 years ago
Your LOS is quite lovely DandyLioness!
Buford_NE_GA_7A
8 years ago
Carding Mill is a very nice rose. It's apricot, but also shows some pink.
dublinbay z6 (KS)
8 years ago
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Crocus Rose would be nice--pale apricot in the center paling to cream color on the outer petals. Comte de Champagne--yellow, pale yellow, cream--or Lichfield Angel--creamy apricot-- or St. Cecilia --pale buff apricot/white--would work well. I particularly like those creamy colors with Shalott--she doesn't harmonize well with a lot of colors, but the creamy ones help highlight her unique shades.

Several of Austins yellows would look nice with her--they sometimes get apricot highlights, but less intense than Shalotts. Consider Molineux (shorter), Poet's Wife (medium), or for a climber, Malvern Hills or Teasing Georgia. Myself, I'd go more for the ones that stay pure yellow rather than becoming part apricotish, as yellow Molineux does, but there is enough of a difference between Molineux's lighter shades that it could also front the taller and darker Shalott. But if the yellows don't do it for you and you want a shorter one to place in front of Shalott, try The Shephardess--a lighter apricot-pink.

I did try getting some lavenders/purples close to my Shalott, but I did not like that combination at all. But different people have different tastes, so maybe try Munstead Wood---which I have in the same general vicinity as Shalott, and with its dark burgundy/purple shades, they look all right together.

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mariannese
8 years ago
I grow Lady of Shalott (not shallot, an onion), Lady Emma Hamilton and Summer Song together. They don't like it where they are, so no picture but I think they will look good together after a move to a better location.
DandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14)
Original Author
8 years ago
Thank you all for your wonderful comments! Just to clarify, I'm not looking for a companion plant for LOS. I fell in love with her color and am looking for another rose of a similar color, but in bush form for a completely different location, since I'd like to add MORE apricot/peach touches throughout the garden.

But I do appreciate the companion rose recommendations and will absolutely keep them in mind for the future!

Mariannese- you are completely right about the spelling and I didn't even notice that my phone autocorrected to the onion name! Hahah I had to laugh at that.
boncrow66
8 years ago
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Tamora is another Austin that is a peachy apricot. I planted one this past spring and her color is beautiful and her scent is divine. I unfortunately don't have a pic of Tamora, I couldn't seem to get a good one.

Marlorena your Lady Gardener is gorgeous!
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
8 years ago
What a beautiful bunch of Lady of Shalott blooms, beautiful The Lady Gardener blooms, and Evelyn blooms. Three beautiful ladies and I love them all. I grow two of them and would certainly like to grow The Lady Gardener, now that I have seen Marlorena's charming Ladies. Diane

Tamora

Tamora being given a "group hug" by her younger sisters--heheh

Another one to try might be the Romantica, Abbaye de Cluny

AdC again

Or perhaps, from Tantau's Nostalgia Series, Augusta Luise

Another photo because Augusta is a most changeable colored rose

And of course, the already shown Evelyn, my very favorite.

Diane
User
8 years ago
Here are some of the peachy beauties I find attractive with the vintage look. Don't know heat tolerance. The lovely 'ball' form seems to be more prevalent on tall Austins, ie. Jude The Obscure and Windermere.

Ambridge Rose - pastel peachy/pinky depending upon temps., cupped when opened

Antico Amore - Luigi Barni'88, HT, pink apricot blend.

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.24470.1&tab=36&qn=2&qc=0

Bonita - Olesen'96, lovely peach with soft form, Nippstress in Nebraska = 5ft, blooms in summer heat
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.41769.3&tab=36

Chippendale - Evers'05, petal packed cup, blooms last, shade of pink, peach, apricot. Oops, some new HMF photos show it tall.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.40559&tab=36&qn=2&qc=0

Versigny - Massad'92, pink to apricot with richer centers, a generosa rose.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.36751&tab=36&qn=2&qc=0
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
8 years ago
Just thought I'd mention that Jude the Obscure doesn't take heat well, as far as his blooms go. My Jude is 11 years old and the blooms just don't last in the heat. Chippendale isn't available in the U.S. or Canada that I know of. In fact, I just emailed Tantau last night about the possibility of an agent over here, so we can buy all these gorgeous roses Tantau is producing. Diane
SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
Definately check out Lady Emma Hamilton and Pat Austin. Both are a wonderful peachy orange and excellent roses. My pat austin always has blooms. Its very heat tolerant as well. But Lady Emmais an amazingly beautiful rose. I saw it at the golden gate park rose garden and have been head over heels inlobe with it. I bought a bareroot one last year only to have it die on me before blooming. (I moved it after it leafed out and it didnt make it).
Cindi_KS
8 years ago
Pat Austin and Tamora both stay shorter for me and the colors are still lovely in triple digits. I wish Summer Song were still available. Mine perished a few years back in a horrible cold winter. Summer Sun, the Kordes floribunda, is a lovely salmon orange rose. Palatine has a new one named Foxy Lady that is intriguing--has anyone seen it in person?

Brothers Grimm Fairy Tale rose is beautiful and super hardy. I think the colors on it would fit in with the others that have been mentioned.
DandyLioness (CA 9, SZ 14)
Original Author
8 years ago
Wow everyone, these are such lovely suggestions! I'm looking for something not too coral, nor too cream...for now. :) These are the standouts to me so far and I'd love your input on bloom size, bush form/size, disease resistance, and heat tolerance. I'm wondering if heat would be such a huge issue though on the sheltered east side of the house where there would be bright shade the second half of the day...

-Lady Emma Hamilton

-Pat Austin

-The Lady Gardener

-Tamora

Some others I was perusing...

-Crown Princess Margareta

-Grace

-Carding Mill

-Easy Going

-Just Joey

Marlorena, I love how you paired TLG with a hydrangea. Which hydrangea is it?
User
8 years ago
DandyLioness... thank you... that's a Hydrangea paniculata type called 'Phantom'. 'Limelight' is similar and in North America I notice a dwarfer version called 'Bobo' seems popular... but there are lots of others to choose from, quite a lot actually.... I find them very easy and floriferous which suits me...

...happy choosing your roses.... it's such a fun hobby...and great to share...
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SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
I think you've made a great list. I see you have easy going on your list. I have Easy Does it and its one of my best performers. It is very heat tolerant never showing the slightest signs of stress and its by far my best bloomer. Here's a pic to entice you:

Here is a pic of some Pat Austin blooms:

If I were you, I'd choose Lady Emma Hamilton and Carding Mill along with these two (Pat and Easy Does It). You would not be disappointed. Also, Peach Drift is great for under-planting the taller roses. Its also one of my best performers. (Apricot drift is nice too as is Coral Drift, really all the drifts LOL).
I also find that pink goes very well with these peachy oranges in terms of coordinating in the garden. There's lots of lovely pinks out there, especially Austins.

For pairing, I'd go with something purplish like Salvia or purple Penstemon's that do well in your region (not in mine unfortunately).

PS Crown Princess Margareta is a climber. If you ever see "or can be grown as a climber" on David Austin's website, it pretty much means it will be a climber, especially in your region. In cooler climates it may be a bush, but not in yours. Just something to keep in mind, or you may be fighting with it to keep in under control. :)
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SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
PPS,

If you are using DA's website as reference, just know that the photo they have of Carding Mill does NOT do it justice. I always passed up this rose because I didn't like how it looked on David' Austin's website, but after seeing it many times here in real people's gardens, I'm smitten.
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Al Mitchell zone 5b (ameri2nal)
8 years ago
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Evelyn is very fragrant and grows to 7 feet in Chicagoland-

Jude the Obscure has the most interesting fragrance of Grapefruit. Here it is as a baby.

Its 5 -6 feet tall now, and seems to tolerate our crummy winters here.

Here's a bad picture of Louise Clemmons in the foreground. She grows to about 3 feet here and is compact. Nice fragrance, orangy apricot color.

Golden Buddah flowers all the time, has a unique fragrance and stays under 2 feet for me, sorry I haven't taken pictures of that one yet.
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8
8 years ago
No suggestions just wanted to say there are some absolutely gorgeous roses on here. Love them all!! Judy
fragrancenutter
8 years ago
Yes I would second Evelyn and Augusta Luise.

Evelyn

Augusta luise

Augusta Luise

Evelyn
SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
Where can one get Augusta Luise? I MUST HAVE!
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
8 years ago
Palatine has Augusta Luise, I believe. I got mine several years ago from Hortico, which no longer carries AL. These Tantau roses seem to come and go from the Canadian sellers, and them mysteriously disappear. I wrote Tantau a few days ago about our frustrating lack of access to their newer roses, but no answer from them so far. I need to get on with it, and email Palatine about this, too. I'm sure you are all sick of me harping on this subject, but I'm not giving up. Diane

More Augusta eye candy

Diane
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
8 years ago
What beautiful photos every has!! The best orangey Austin in my garden this year was Pat Austin. I am in love with this rose. It does have a climbing habit though. I have 2 Pats and they both bloomed all throughout the hot humid summer here in Florida. I also have CPM, LOS, Evelyn, and Jude. While they all bloomed sporadically they kinda shut down in the worst of the heat. My LEH and Carding Mill are still way too little to judge so Im not counting those two lol.
SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
Sultry, are your Austins on Fortuniana?
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
8 years ago
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Hi SoFL! Most of my Austins are on Doc Huey because that was what was easily available when I bought them and are also in huge pots still. I hope to eventually get more on Fortuniana.

I also have several baby Austins on own root. The ones doing best own root are A Shropshire Lad, Sharifa Asma, and Lilian Austin..these 3 really took off. The other own roots are just creeping or maybe sleeping lol.

Augusta Luise is to die for!! I hope I can find this one sometime.

~SJN
SoFL Rose z10
8 years ago
They are hard to come by on fortuniana. Only K&M carries them and Cool Roses in Palm Beach has a few, but they recently said they were going to stop carrying them because of high royalties or something. I was so bummed because I got most of mine from them. K&M is really pricey when you add shipping to it. But it's worth the extra $$$ because on fortuniana they can last for years and years. The longest I've ever been able to keep any rose on Dr. H alive is 3 years. My Darcy Bussel was doing well until now. I have ONE Austin still going strong (on Doc) after ordering from them 3 years ago and that one is Wollerton Old Hall and its showing no signs of slowing down.

I think growing them in large pots works well, even if you only get 3 years out of them that's still a lot of blooms.

My oldest Austin on fortuniana is Evelyn and she's easily 9 feet tall. She grows like a climber bare legged till about 8 feet and then all leaves and buds on top. It's not the most attractive habit, but she pumps out the looms like crazy so no complaints here. :)

With the exception of Dick Clark and Easy Does It, all of my Austin's out perform my HTs

I'll be trying some own root from now on however (if I can't get them on Fortuniana) because I think some own roots actually do better for me. Just not sure about putting them in the ground.