Lady Emma or Lady Shalot?
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Comments (12)I have a grafted LEH, she is still very new, & has only been in the ground since early April, so I can't say what she is like as a fully grown bush, but here is what I observe so far... She was very slow getting started, I planted 4 other grafted bare roots at the same time (2 of which were also Austins) and she was absolutely the last to start putting on good growth, which is why she is also the shortest. However, since the growth has started she has grown steadily, having had 3 or 4 basal breaks even in the last couple of weeks, all of which have quickly grown about 9" over the rest of the plant, and seem like they are still climbing, before this point the plant was maybe 16"' tall. She was also late getting started in the blooming department, but now that she has I have not yet been disappointed by her frequency yet. She definitely blooms in flushes, much like my Munstead Wood, but the resting period between seems to be pleasantly shorter than Munstead (who has been a little stingy for me so far). Since you have one you already know but I'll just say it again, her blooms are absolutely gorgeous. LEH has one of, if not my favorite bloom out of all the roses I have collected so far (only one year in)- such a lovely blend of orange & pink with highlights of yellow- reminds me of a sunset, & the fragrance! It is delicious, like some kind of fruity desert. Maybe this rose is one of the few Austins that just does better grafted, or maybe I just haven't had it long enough to have a negative experience with it yet. I will say that I do feed my roses well, I used lots of compost, rose tone, & bone meal when planting, and I fertilize regularly with my special rotten banana smoothies -I just throw old bananas or banana peels in the blender, fill it with water and blend- then dilute it down so that I have enough for the whole bed-so sophisticated! Sometimes I will add a little molasses or sulfate of potash, or some other organic plant food, but whatever is in there I always dilute it down significantly. Since I have been doing the smoothies I have seen tons of new growth on this rose, and most of my others as well but particularly this one ... so maybe she responds well to potassium? We also have been getting tons of rain here lately with this crazy polar vortex situation, so I am sure that has helped a lot. She- like most of my Austins reeeeaaaally likes water, so maybe try just watering more and making her a banana smoothie every now and then and see what happens? I wish you luck! I personally adore this rose so I hope you continue to try to make her work for you! Jessica This post was edited by Dinglehopp3r on Sat, Jul 19, 14 at 19:20...See Moresharifa asma and lady emma H, heat tolerance
Comments (15)Hi Rekha, I'm zone 7b/8aish, but hot and humid in summer here, too. No 116 temps, but lots of upper 90s and a few lower 100s here and there with high humidity and a good amount of rain. I've never grown Sharifa, but do have LEH. She does blackspot, so I have her with some other Austin spotters on the side of our metal shed. That area gets early morning shade, but then full sun from around 11:00am to sunset (and reflected heat from the metal building. I don't recall how well she blooms during the heat of summer, but I do have pictures of her in hot months, so she must bloom some. She definitely doesn't die from heat here. These aren't great pictures, but thought you might find full bush shots useful: Here is a bloom shot from hot July...See MoreLady Emma Hamilton
Comments (32)Gorgeous photos of a gorgeous rose. I grow Lady Emma Hamilton and was going to replace it with CORAL KNOCK OUT (aka Carefree Celebration, Shrub, William J. Radler, U.S., 2004), which out performs it in every way but flower form and fragrance. However, David Austin Ltd changed my mind because it can't be replaced should I regret my decision. This gets me to my displeasure with the David Austin people. I am FED UP with their business practices and WILL NOT recommend one of their roses again! They copyright not only the plant but the name as well. And when they can't make money licensing both then they "retire" the plant. They are also downright evil with their lawsuits and strong arm tactics. As a rosarian, I want hybridizers to create roses that strengthen the species and will stand the test of time. Roses with true disease resistance, vigor, strong roots that can plow through heavy clay soil, graceful shrubs that look good in all garden settings (not just formal rose gardens), few to no prickles, repeat bloom like a Floribunda, beauty of flower (in all stages of development, not just the bud) and fragrance, strong straight stems that hold the bloom(s) upright, and decent vase life. Retiring EVELYN was the deal breaker for me. It is my opinion the most beautiful rose in existence. Incredible vase life, strong stems, excellent vigor, and a delicious sweet fragrance that smells like peaches instead of the medicinal myrrh they seem to be obsessed with. For those frustrated by the retirement, try STAR OF THE REPUBLIC (Shrub, Mike Shoup, U.S., 1998) offered by the Antique Rose Emporium. The bloom comes close to Evelyn's perfection, but the nearly thornless shrub is much more pleasing and the foliage a heck of lot more resistant to black spot....See MoreWhich of These could Substitute for Lady Emma Hamilton?
Comments (21)@librarian_gardner_8b_pnw You have highlighted so well here the difference between LEH and LOS with those pictures! The latter just doesn't have enough of that orange-pink variation. It looks closer to a flat orange to me. The combined pink-orange effect of LEH makes it glow in a way that no other does. I really have a LEH obsession now but it is probably wise to revisit in the fall to see if she'll get out there again. I even sent an inquiry to DA to ask whether they will bring her back any time soon. I like CL but it just doesn't seem to have enough of that glowy salmon pink. This one too seems to turn to a rather flat orange most of the times although I have seen it with some blotches of pink when aged. But no, not LEH....See Morekstrong
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