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4 years agoI had Sharifa. Loved her but she doesn't like the full sun we have in our zone. I would give her afternoon shade and morning sun only. She reverted back to rootstock for me so I had to let her go. I didn't replace her as she was not a great bloomer for me, probably due to her placement in full sun. She would shut down during the summer and was pretty much a once bloomer for me. Mary Magdalene is similar in size and coloring--just more apricot rather than Sharifa's pink. Mary does very well in our sun and heat and has beautiful flowers. Nice scent too. I would recommend her if you can find her.
LEH didn't even make it past the first month I had her. She croaked in the sun and heat. Haven't tried her since. So sorry that all I have is negative news for you regarding the Austins you have chosen.
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Comments (16)Linrose, I don't know from where you got your (blanket) info on Austins, but the many I've been growing so far are certainly neither divas nor stingy with their blooms nor any less healthy than most other modern roses. Most of them are certainly a lot healthier, more vigorous and floriferous than many HT's, making fantastic garden plants. On the three you asked about: Lady Emma is a continuous bloomer with superb citrus-fruity scent similar to Jude the Obscure's, but a bit sweeter and more complex, absolutely delicious. Well behaved and wide growing, and in our temperate English climate practically evergreen (or ever-bronze, given the lovely color of its foliage). Catches some BS without spray but does not defoliate, and just keeps blooming and blooming. Quite amazing. This rose is a must for its beauty, scent and performance. My Tea Clipper is entering its third season. Its repeat was not great in its first year, but improved noticeably in its second. The blooms are very beautiful when they first open, but they fade teribly fast, within a day or two, into a wishy-washy color, ending up a very light, washed-out yellow-beige with floppy petals. That has been disappointing. Scent is tea. The plant is enormously vigorous with few thorns and quite healthy, even in my no-spray garden. Teasing Georgia - exquisitly beautiful and very healthy with an overwhelming display of flowers in the spring and early summer. Repeat in its first year is not so good, but will improve very noticeably every year. Lovely sweet tea scent. A superb, classic rose. Some more Austins I can recommend for performance: William Shakespeare 2000 Molineux Golden Celebration Sharifa Asma Heritage Abe Darby Crocus Rose Fair Bianca Prospero Lady of Megginch Radio Times Pat Austin Claire Austin Christopher Marlowe Jubilee Celebration The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild Sophy's Rose (not much scent) The Dark Lady (BS susceptible but superb bloomer) The Prince (a smallish plant but a good bloomer) The Herbalist Portmeirion A Shropshire Lad Ann Boleyn (flowers blow fast though) Jude the Obscure is also a good, reliable bloomer (albeit not a bloom machine) with fantastic scent and good health. In my experience, Austins tend to perform better when grafted. DA in Tyler TX sells the biggets, best quality plants. Hope this helps, Andrea...See MoreHeat Tolerant Roses ??? What's in Your Garden??
Comments (64)Desertgarden, it still is "hot" here in October with temps ranging from 90--100 or so. It doesn't start to cool off until towards the end of October. October is what I call our up and down season. Nice weather one day and then the next it is hot. Then bam, come November 1st, it cools off dramatically. Usually by the end of November is it cold (cold being a relative term for me). We can have nights below freezing by the end of November and daytime highs in the 50's. Oh, and of course, our lovely fog season starts then. Can't see your hand in front of your face. That is when we have our 100-200 car pile ups on the freeways as people drive like they can see in the fog--which they can't. This year, we shall see how La Nina hits us. Last time we had a La Nina, we had snow for a couple of days with temps not above 28 degrees. Really bad on the citrus we grow here. Not looking forward to that again. Went to bed last night about 9:15 and it was still 94 degrees outside. After a week of 109--113, we are supposed to cool off to the low 100's. I think it is only going to be 103 today and they may be right since at 5 am this morning it is only 76 degrees. Roses are still pumping out blooms. Pretty Jessica, Blue for You, Eyes for You, Peppermint Parfait, Occhi di Fata, Candice, Wedding Cake (those blooms last forever on the bush) and Midnight Blue....See MoreTaking care of plants in flood, drought, heat, and cold
Comments (37)Fertilizer plan for pots is tricky, since potting soil doesn't have trace elements like in-the ground soil. Pots leach out nutrients with frequent watering. Pots accumulate the alkalinity of tap-water, and pots become more alkaline in hot & dry climate. The ratio of nutrients is important. Re-post what U. of CA found in rose-tissue: http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7465.html For low-ratios, it would be 3 Nitrogen, 2 Potassium, and 0.2 Phosphorus, plus 1 Calcium and 0.25 magnesium. For ppm it would be 50 iron, 30 manganese, 30 boron, 15 zinc, and 5 copper. Re-post the outline which I wrote for Carol in 2015 regarding fertilizer plan for pots. Tomato-Tone is better than Rose-Tone since it has more of the expensive green sand for potassium, plus gypsum for calcium. I always put a couple of earthworms inside my pots, and some organics on top to feed them. Tomato-Tone NPK is 3-4-6, with 8% calcium, contains Bio-tone®, Espoma proprietary blend of beneficial microbes. ONCE A MONTH in hot & dry weather: Tomato Tone NPK 4-3-6 to supply the trace elements of zinc, copper, and boron in chicken manure. Plant Tone is cheaper and works the same. ONCE A MONTH in rainy weather: Pea Gravel & red-lava-rock to supply the calcium & magnesium & trace-elements. That's to fulfill the high-ratios of nutrients in rose tissue in %: 5 nitrogen, 3 potassium, 0.3 phosphorus, 1.5 calcium, and 0.35 magnesium. For ppm it would be 250 manganese, 150 iron, 15 copper, 50 zinc, and 60 boron. Below is Yves-seedling, which I grew from a tiny-seed in 2012, it's 7-months old in 5 hours of morning sun. MG-moisture control potting soil is used. Jobes NPK 2-7-4 is mixed into the potting soil for beneficial bacteria. It's watered 3 times a week with tiny amount of sulfate of potash (21% sulfur at NPK 0-0-50) together with gypsum (calcium sulfate with 17% sulfur) to lower my high pH tap-water. I don't like the high urea, high salt of MG-soluble, so I used a tiny bit of high-phosphorus Bloom-Booster (lower salt-index) for trace elements. Lots of buds (more than 5) on a 7-month-old baby grown from seed. Potassium and calcium, plus phosphorus are needed for solid-root-growth to survive my 5a winter (I transfer roses from pots to ground before winter hit). Below is Excellenz Von Schubert that Seaweed in CA grew In full-sun, fertilized with fish emulsion. Seaweed uses Gardner & Bloom organic potting soil for EVS rose, it blooms lots for her, despite her low annual rainfall of 11" per year: Here's the ingredients in Gardner & Bloom potting soil for the above pot that Seaweed used: "INGREDIENTS: Recycled forest products, bark fines, peat moss, perlite, sand, composted chicken manure, alfalfa meal, bone meal, oyster shell & dolomite limes (as pH adjusters), worm castings, bat guano, kelp meal." http://www.kellogggarden.com/products/gborganics/soils/?s=rose-flower-planting-mix...See MoreWhat's in a name?: searching for heat tolerant roses in SA
Comments (26)Straw, I am not handicapped; I am recovering from surgery & have post Lyme. That's the main reason I am not in Africa now. I have experience in Africa, knowledge of sub-Saharan African cultures and work here as much as I can with refugees from Congo. The orphanages in Botswana & SA house children not only from their own countries, but children who have fled from Congo & other countries where war, strife, food insecurity, political corruption and many other dangers are an everyday occurances. Africa is where my heart and my call are. I am a trained psychotherapist and have experience in medical social work. By the time I am medically able to return to Africa, I will have completed my MDiv and will be ordained by PCUSA. This combination enables me to serve in both secular and faith-based institutions. Every day, children suffer in many countries, including our own. Your heart has called you to help children in Vietnam. My roommate will be going back to Congo. My home church just returned from building an orphanage in Haiti. There is room for all to serve, many many many areas of need....See MoreRekha A 9a Houston area
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4 years agoOh, one more thing--again if you want that DA look of a full rose (many petals), these are not DA roses but are great in full sun (again, I don't know about humidity). One is an old rose, Vick's Caprice. He has very subtle stripes on him.
The other is Peppermint Parfait. This is a great rose that was bred for health, can take heat and gets to be about 3 feet tall or a little bigger. Mine is in a pot, so he stays rather small because of it.
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4 years agoSharifa is one of my best repeating and most fragrant Austins. Mine is in morning sun. My grafted plant of it is a lot bigger than my own root plant.
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4 years agoHi Rekha,
I'm zone 7b/8aish, but hot and humid in summer here, too. No 116 temps, but lots of upper 90s and a few lower 100s here and there with high humidity and a good amount of rain. I've never grown Sharifa, but do have LEH. She does blackspot, so I have her with some other Austin spotters on the side of our metal shed. That area gets early morning shade, but then full sun from around 11:00am to sunset (and reflected heat from the metal building. I don't recall how well she blooms during the heat of summer, but I do have pictures of her in hot months, so she must bloom some. She definitely doesn't die from heat here.
These aren't great pictures, but thought you might find full bush shots useful:
Here is a bloom shot from hot July
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