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Comments (14)Hey Sheila, I've wanted to reply to your post for a while now, but I truly haven't come up with anything I think could possibly be comforting. We are now in the midst of our first season of culling, and also grappling with the same feelings. I have really had to wrestle with the logic of it all. Am I coldhearted? No, more so than when we bought meat exclusively from the grocer. Was I MORE cold hearted before, being ignorant and likely contributing to a meat industry and their sometimes reprehensible practices? Argueable. If i disassemble the process, which part(s) strikes a nerve? THe killing? The dressing? The eating? And why should I feel differently about meat i never "knew" from the grocer? Hardest for me is the feeling of betrayal. I'm amused at the human behaviors we engage in to comfort ourselves....how we are frozen with our kill, stroking it until the inevitable nerve twitching subsides because we can't bear that it should 'die alone', or how everyone gets extra grain after a a comrade goes to "freezer camp". These silly things are however, signals that we are different than say, the coyotes, which are far less benevolent. However idiotic, I am grateful for all the inner turmoil. Would I rather be like the coyote? and to that end, aren't I much more like the coyote in my attitude toward the meat I bring home from the store? A week or so ago, my co-worker asked if I didn't wish I could wiggle my nose and voila! All the birds would be dressed and cut and packaged and done! I think he was surprised when I very quietly and solemnly replied...'no'. It's hard, very hard, and I don't like it, but there's something very valuable about going through it too. I take from the experience a commitment to give our remaining animals the very best I'm capable of, a feeling of responsibilty I may not otherwise feel so deeply. And for the sacrificed lamb, this is the greatest lesson it can give to me, and the most important legacy it can leave for its fellow creatures in my care. All creatures must come, and must pass. When we take them without their permission, we are humbled. We pray they move to an elevated state after this life, (if they wish), and shine our gratefulness upon those that remain. I think the greatest means by which we can insult them is to waste their bodies and/or ignore their teachings. In the greater scheme of things, I think they would be content with that philosophy. I hope they are. In nature, they would still likely be eaten. Being a creature of higher consciousness (unlike the coyote) I can honor them with appreciation, or I can not. To me, coldheartedness is about THAT choice. I have no idea if this rant helps or not, but i definitely know what you're going through. Hang in there and keep trying to sort it out. It takes courage for the thinking person. Congraulate yourself as being part of the inspired. LFRJ...See MoreWe had our first killing frost last night
Comments (3)Run for the shovel, dig them up, and take them inside. Then carefully caress each one while telling them how beautiful they are and how you will protect them from that damaging cold. They are slow to respond..maybe like next July...but they will return your love. CrAzY LaRrY...See MoreWhat would you fix?
Comments (14)My appraiser finally came.. now I can finish what I wanted to originally post. New kitchen Updated bath New fence and driveway gate New amp Refinished hardwoods The updates you did are ones that most people around here have also done, except us. With kitchens & baths they've used the cheapest builders grade and let the house "mechanics" slide. They focused on some rooms, leaving paneling in others & from what I now hear, some of the bathrooms, while they look great in photos, in person they are cramped. Since the last time we were listed (1999) we've put in central AC, roof, furnace, upgraded electric, hot water heater, driveway, paver walkway plus removed paneling from all of the rooms, did new flooring in some spots, counters & both toilets. What we did not do was replace the kitchen cabinets, they are wood, honey maple stained & in great shape. They are very hard to photograph though lol - in the main bathroom, which is 10 x 9, there is paneling on the walls, the tub surround could also use to be replaced but with the new toilet, counter top (painted the vanity) and flooring, the bathroom looks decent and is fine until the next owner comes in and does their thing. After walking houses myself and seeing remodeling done to the owners tastes, I passed on a lot of houses. I talked to a lot of people, other buyers that had just bought so that I had a clue as to what people were looking for & what was out there. I talked to our buyer the other day, he told me that while the houses looked great in photos and said they had say central AC, the AC unit was old, or people couldn't tell them how old the furnace was or most of the mechanics of the house. When I hand buyers the flier I made, their face lights up when they see the ages of everything, so I am hopeful that if this deal does fall through by the end of this week that one of the other buyers will come back. If you can look at your competition, do so. Ask your agent to give you the MLS sheets of your competition to see what they have. You might be able to get away with not doing the roof but you might have to. The way our agent put it, the buyer is buying an old house, not a new house. They can't expect brand new everything. They should expect that what is there is not defective, unless otherwise disclosed. If you make necessary repairs, you've fixed the defect. If the buyers want a whole new roof when the existing roof isn't actually defective, it's not fair to expect you to foot the entire bill. If the idea of repair work isn't satisfactory to your buyer, depending on your market and the traffic you're getting and how much of a hurry you're in to sell, I'd think about offering a partial credit for roof replacement. How much would depend on how long you've lived in the house. If you do have roofers come out to look at your roof, I wouldn't ask for estimates for a new roof. I'd ask them what repairs they could do to extend the life of the current roof and will they guarantee their work. I would get estimates for repairs and a roof. The last time we were listed, our deal fell through due to the roof, which was not leaking at the time. The buyer wanted a new roof and wanted us to pay the whole thing, hubby offered 1/2. We ended up getting another 5 years out of that roof Depending on what area the house will be listed in, some buyers are brutal. The roof might kill the deal, like our last one....See MoreSelling a house
Comments (34)The response to this incident has been much different on this forum than I have heard from anyone else:old neighbors, new neighbors, our kids' co-workers, etc. I really appreciate the different perspective from those who do not know either of us personally. I know that I have looked at this totally for all the grief it caused us then, and since. However, I do not understand why my saying that I would just like to move on--lots more important and earth shaking stories, and interesting, ones--makes me self-righteous, revengeful, nasty, and ugly. I have no control if some of you want to continue to debate this, and tell me how wrong I am, but I do think I have a right to say that I am done, and ready to move on. In spite of the fact that some of the posts were quite personally attacking, I don't feel that I was cruel, or personal, in my responses.i am sorry if anyone felt that I was....See Moresixtyohno
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