Logans Soil Test, South West NJ Lawn - 2015
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Comments (11)+1 David. Gray water is wonderful and I'm a complete fan of the idea. Soap levels in the water are potentially an issue if drought continues for long periods of time, so occasional flushes with clear water are certainly a good idea (fortunately, your washer does that with every rinse cycle anyway). Our Township recommends and approves of the use of rain barrels beneath any and all downspouts, up to a pretty big size. Check your local laws, however, as some municipalities have sold their groundwater rights and it's illegal (yes, yes, illegal) to capture water. Use of even minimal amounts of 20 Mule Team Borax means you should be throwing that water away. When we make the recommendations, they're always in the range of 1/2 to 4 tablespoons of borax per thousand square feet--applied exactly once before re-testing (with rare exception). It doesn't take a lot of 20 Mules to render a soil toxic to plant life. Boron is a micro-element (an element required only in very tiny amounts). It's required for proper photosynthesis, although the plant can side-step boron in the case of shortages, at the cost of a lot of efficiency. Boron also helps meristem cells (plant stem cells) differentiate into their adult forms. Lacking or deficient of boron, cells elongate but don't differentiate properly, limiting their efficiency right off the bat. It's pretty harmless to humans, but toxicity begins at 2 PPM (as I mentioned) for very sensitive plants. By 5 PPM, most plants have a problem. By 10 PPM, the soil won't grow anything but the most tolerant plants. Go much above that and forget it. Nothing grows. Our normal target is 0.7 PPM, 700 parts per billion. That works out to about a pound and a half of boron per acre of land to a six inch depth--which weighs about two million pounds....See MoreSoil test results from Logan Labs
Comments (23)1) Technically, after the third mow...which will be a while. That'll be too late for most pre-emergents to catch spring weeds. You could use Tupersan (Siduron) in spring when the forsythia bloom, however. It won't impact the grass, but it only lasts about a month and doesn't have an extremely wide umbrella of what it stops from sprouting. 2) March or April 2016 is great if you want. Done much later, any adjustments will generally have to wait for fall (I really dislike stressing summer lawns). 3) It depends on your locale. That's not completely unreasonable, but I would continue to look around to see if I can find it cheaper. See 4 and 5 below. 4) I paid $14.25 per 50 pounds this year...in eastern Pennsylvania, which is soybean and corn country (as in there's acres of soybean and corn within spitting distance of my house). I also use a grain mill way out in the boondocks, so prices tend to be a little cheaper just because of that. 5) Not necessarily. While corn once a year is a help in terms of a gentle fungus protection (and to diversify the microbes a bit), sticking with Milo isn't a problem if it's cheaper for you. My heavy hitter is soybean meal due to the low cost locally--it beats Milo's price by a mile. If it were the other way around, I'd use Milo instead. Rough app levels are as follows (#/K = pounds per thousand square feet because I'm lazy): Alfalfa: 10-20#/K (the limiter here is the growth hormones, not the nitrogen...this is a weak nitrogen feed, but a good addition in early September to encourage root growth). Corn: 10-65#/K. The lower end helps with fungal protection, the upper end actually provides a feeding for the lawn, and there's no problem using corn at this level--except for the expense, of course. 65#/K delivers about 1 pound of nitrogen. Cottonseed Meal: 15#/K. It's difficult to get up north, but the southerner's equivalent to soybean meal. Milorganite: 20#/K. This is higher than bag rate, but will provide 1#/K of N. This is also rich in iron and contains both fast and slow nitrogen, making it a great pick-me-up for the lawn in addition to feeding it over the long term. Oats, Rice Hulls, Most Other Random Grainy Stuff: 50#/K. Most grains will be around 2% nitrogen (about 14% protein) and are applied at 50#/K to feed at 1#/K of N. They can certainly be applied at lower rates to help organically condition a soil if you wish. Soybean Meal: 15#/K. My personal staple. This provides 1#/K of N....See More2 New Soil Tests - comparing soil for green grass vs. yellow grass
Comments (17)Spotty higher pH can happen if you got the soil off of one particular section of the pile...that happened to contain the old B horizon with some limestone in it! In my case, I got the old subsoil on my lot, so it just kind of stank all around. * You said you targeted our phosphorus level higher than your own lawn. Is this due to the pH difference or something else? Is phosphorus bound in the soil at higher pH's, and is our pH (7.1 - 7.3) high enough to cause that? pH. If you look at the availability of P by pH, it drops as pH rises above seven. You're not that far over, the binding isn't extreme, so I just boosted the numbers a little bit. Your standard is around 220, most people with slightly acidic pH would be around 200. In your case, I wouldn't blink at anything between 200 and 300. I never use my own soil as a standard, per se, for anybody else's. Mine have given in to some experimental stuff, plus I've over-enhanced the gardens to match the (extreme) density and (extraordinarily high) performance I demand they support. My current P levels in the garden push 1,000. * What kind of quality issues can we expect from the low phosphorus level until it's corrected? Thin, weak, sparse growth that gets sick and dies easily, discolors easily, grows poorly, and generally doesn't look at all good. Installed sod would tend to thin out and die back over the course of a year or so if it isn't corrected, resulting in a lot of thin patches and blank areas. N, P, and K are the big three and absolutely have to be there in the correct proportions (N we take care of on an as-needed basis). * It sounds like the Milorganite is great stuff, but I'm very sensitive to odors, so I don't think it's a good fit for our lawn. If we used ferrous sulfate instead (being careful to sweep it off the concrete), what rate and frequency would you recommend? I assume we don't need to worry about lowering the soil pH too much with the ferrous sulfate since the starting pH is above 7.0. I'd be comfortable with ferrous sulfate (monohydrate or pentahydrate, it doesn't matter) at 3 pounds per thousand square feet in April, early October, and perhaps early November if the weather's holding. Keep an eye on the pH in this case, though, as iron sulfate is about an eighth as acidifying as pure elemental sulfur and does NOT require digging in to work! Never use iron during hotter months or when the soil's going to freeze solid for winter within two or three weeks of use....See MoreNeed suggestions for thin lawn, soil sample results.
Comments (18)Becky, thank you for taking the time to make some suggestions. This is all great advice and I'm already looking at how to tackle this with the rest of the summer ahead of me. I cannot say for certain about the clay content, but our area contains thick red dirt, rocks and other material so assumed clay. I appreciate your thoughts about holding off on Milorganite now if brown patch is a problem, as I have had to fight some dollar spot in the past. So no Nitrogen now? I am sure the picture is hard to show, but the yard is more yellow than green. I'm just worried about a summer that 'burns' the grass since it is not thick at all and very exposed (we have hot and humid summers). I've spent a bit of time researching your recommendations and am thinking the following: - Apply some baby shampoo (may try this weekend yet) - Put down 11 lb/k of gypsum (will likely tackle this next weekend) - SOP two weeks later, then again in August, Sept and October? Or only three applications total? - Milorganite in August and again in September - Early fall - overseed - November - fast release nitrogen fertilizer What about the K20? (Sorry my research isn't helping me out there). Thoughts? Is this the better plan than your first recommendation of a balanced 10-10-10 now and another later in the summer? Thank you very much again, Don...See Morestephensilva1
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