Your photo didn't come through.

hmm, it shows up on my screen. :(

Sorry... wonder if the link will work for you.

Here is a link that might be useful:

Assuming this isn't just a ploy to get us to go to the site (sorry, but we've had quite a few of those lately and you did just register today)....I can't get to it. I get the following:
Frobidden Page .

You don't have permission to access to this document on this server.
If you need help, please email us at support@hanssemBoston.com.

(If this is your site, have someone QA it..for spelling if nothing else!)

oh, I really apologize.

no, i am considering the layout for my own kitchen.

it's a photo of one of their client's kitchens.

not sure why when I preview it, it still works for me.

thanks for trying.

ironcook, I see the pictures just fine. Not sure what the problem is.

(I think people are not welcome to post on the day they register ;-) ).

I think you're probably right about the sizes of the cabinets although there appear to be 2 cabinets after the sink-upper on the sink wall. Hard to say what the size of the last one squished in that corner is.

There is also what appears to be an 18-24" cabinet upper door next to the fridge. Don't know as it may be one of those corner susan things which would make its width about 36 or so. Like the fridge.

Why do you want to re-engineer the kitchen down to its cabinet dimensions though? Wouldn't you want to tailor it to the size of the space that you have?
It is a smart kitchen though. Really like the fridge. And personally, in that size kitchen, I'd prefer to put in the smaller 18" DW and get a bit more storage for other things.
Cool.

well, I cleared my cache, and it still appears, so I don't know.

this is an inauspicious first post. :(

well, if anyone cares to look, it's the second column, sixth thumbnail down, the salmon colored one.

this is the the text of what i'm linking to below:
http://www.hanssemboston.com/design/client.htm

again, i apologize.

Here is a link that might be useful: Client Kitchen

>>> (I think people are not welcome to post on the day they register ;-) ).

thanks mindstorm ;-)

i just like the proportions. stuck in a layout rut right now.

function over form gets a little boring after awhile.

thanks again.

I think those are 18 inch uppers, with the long cabinets being 30", the end cabinets by the fridge and the one on the very end may be 12" though. Whole kitchen looks about 10 or 11 feet by 6 feet, so they managed to get a lot in a small space.

Now I can see them.

MindStorm...we've had several posters recently that have posted here for the sole purpose of driving people to their sites. Consequently, many of us have become suspicious of first-day posts that don't appear to be "real"...questions (or comments) that were rather vague but with an external link...sort of like this one...out of the blue asking about cabinet sizes in a picture at a different site that's obviously a commercial site and no other real information/details...sorry, but it looked suspicious.

I'm glad to see my suspicions are incorrect...but they aren't always!

As to the kitchen you're asking about...

It's a little difficult to tell the dimensions b/c there's no "straight on" shot of the sink wall and b/c I think the pics are a bit distorted in an effort to get a long shot.

IF the cabinet over the DW is the same size, it would be 24". I know some designers push for matching base and upper cabinets. If this designer is not one of those, then then the cabinet might be narrower than 24". It kind of looks a bit wider than the one to the left of the OTR MW.

The upper corner cabinet appears to be a blind corner (not very useful, btw, worse than a base blind corner). So, I think the door on the cabinet b/w the corner & refrigerator is most likely 24" wide.

Turn the corner and next to the sink it looks like a 9" or 12" door and then 15" or 18"...can't really tell.

Because it's so tiny, I suspect this is a one-person kitchen in a condo or small townhouse. If so, it's OK, a bit cramped and a "black hole" next to the refrigerator, but workable. It probably would not allow more than one person to comfortably work in it.

The Prep Zone is probably the 24" over the DW, that's the size that drove me crazy in my old kitchen and was one of the main items driving our remodel...and it didn't have a DW under it (which made it marginally better than this one).

It's too bad the peninsula counter is raised b/c it would have made a good workspace if it were all one level...to make up for the small space b/w the sink & range.

Be careful eating there...those are small dishes in the pic and even they look like they would fall off if you nudged them too far back or forward....regular/normal/real life dishes would be even worse. The cabinets making up the peninsula appear to be shallower than 24"...probably to be able to fit a seating peninsula as well as an eat-in area.

In this situation, I think putting seating in the peninsula was a mistake...it limits the functionality of the peninsula and most likely both seating areas (at the peninsula and at the table) are cramped.

If it were my kitchen...

* I would probably have looked for a way to eliminate the red wall b/w the refrigerator and hall, thereby gaining 4" or so of space b/w the refrigerator and corner. Not sure how I would do it, but I would try very hard to find a way.

* I would have also taken what cabinets I could to the ceiling b/c there's not much storage in that kitchen.

* Additionally, I would have gone with a 24" single-bowl sink to gain more counter and cabinet space.

* I would probably have put frosted doors on the top cabinets and only left one open one...over the sink. But I think I would have put a plate rack there so at least there was some useful, yet attractive storage there.

* I'm not sure I would have put in a peninsula, but if I did, it would be all one-height, no seating, and full-depth cabinets for maximum storage & counterspace.

* I would have probably put in a 30" rangehood w/a cabinet above and gotten a small MW and put it in the "black hole" b/w the refrigerator & corner. It would be out of the way of prepping and most dirty dishes, but close to the refrigerator & water for point-of-use and at a good working height.

I think the kitchen is less than five feet deep: that looks like a 21" fridge possibly. It appears narrower than the counterdepth to its left. The range is probably 24". It appears the same width as the DW. I would've gone 30" on the range and 18" on the DW I think.

With the microwave I would have done on the counter next to fridge also. I doubt its vented...it looks like there is a passive vent that draws by roof turbine fans in the upper left corner. This is how NYC kitchens and baths are vented although this is probably Boston.

I imagine this is a studio + or Jr. one bedroom and this is highly visible to the rest of the apartment and that drove some of the design decisions. I think they were driven by symmetry to do the microwave and open shelf variation on the uppers.

I bet the peninsula is the *only place to eat, unless you eat on the coffee table or at a desk. I bet the sofa is normally inches away from whatever barstools sit there. IRL they probably eat at the coffee table.

What would I have done differently:

Since they built this in its own jewel box, they could have made sure all was square and plumb, so I would've gone all the way to the ceiling with cabinets. My Manhattan friends have boxes crammed on that open space and I am sure this person does too.

I would've used a countertop microwave tucked next to fridge although this may be one of the fancier ones that doesn't come that way?

Like I said bigger range, smaller DW, although that may result in smaller prep space. I bet the counter over the DW is it, and its probably the most they could get.

No open shelves at the top. Its an aesthetic statement that reduces usable storage.

I probably would've foregone the narrow peninsula and maybe have created a "column" of something at the outside corner at near end to create an open closed type of thing.

Stylistically, I think I would've gone a bit more minimal and "stealth". This probably IS the room in the apartment, and I don't think I would want my kitchen looking quite so kitchen-y if my living and sleeping quarters are steps away. Thats a personal choice, I think they did just about as well as could be done in about 45 square feet.

... Consequently, many of us have become suspicious of first-day posts that don't appear to be "real"...questions (or comments) that were rather vague but with an external link...sort of like this one...out of the blue asking about cabinet sizes in a picture at a different site that's obviously a commercial site and no other real information/details...sorry, but it looked suspicious.
I'm glad to see my suspicions are incorrect...but they aren't always!

Outside the internet, I believe the word used to describe this thought process is "xenophobia". It doesn't serve anyone well - neither you, nor the newcomer, nor the community - to repeat the sentiment.

Stylistically I agree with Palimpsest that this is a good place to make the kitchen less kitchen-y. In my opinion, the bar counter goes a long way to doing just that. That said, I just noticed that it is a narrow "L"-shaped affair - more a wide-ish wall cap than a counter. Earlier on it looked like a wide bar counter which I think would have been more aesthetically pleasing (to me). But of course, I would think that - not only have I done that but one of my favorite kitchens shown on the GW had just that and which spawned the idea for mine. Counterspace is good but I rather like a good bar table. I find it both aesthetically as well as functionally satisfying.

I don't actually think that enough of the range (or is it a cooktop) is visible to make a positive determination about its size. Given that it sits under an OTR micro-hood, guessing 30" is as good as any other and perhaps even a safer bet. But who knows.

And I still maintain, & who cares?! It isn't necessary unless the objective is to throw stones at the owner and the designers designs both of whom have requirements that haven't been shared here.

I agree with the OP. It is a smart kitchen for a condominium. I too would be quite happy there.

Mindstorm, and others...

I'm an I/T professional for a financial institution.

This software running on this site allows anyone to post any HTML they'd like to.. Including links/code that send you to something that looks just like your online banking site or facebook page.... Whatever... Everyone needs to examine the links before clinking on them. If it is remotely suspicious or even unknown (aka not photobook, shutterfly, picasaweb,etc.) DON'T...

I clicked on something here that took me to a Facebook window. Stupidly I logged in.. Undoubtedly a fake site that took my pw. I realized that about 3 seconds after i logged in... and so I changed that pw.

The best and brightest K people hang here so I watch and post occasionally.. carefully (w/o a password that I use on anyhing else)... but man... everyone should be telling GW I?T people to get a clue -- they are totally aiding/doing a favor for the hackers/thefts/criminals...

Be careful here...

Marcy, Wise cautions those. They apply even more globally to links in emails also. Agree with you - "surfing" the web is increasingly to be done at one's peril.

That said, what links or log-ins here? There's a picture of the (a?) kitchen in the very first post. I don't think that anyone needs to go anywhere, load anything or log-in anywhere to see that picture. No?

Hi ironcook. Welcome to the site :)

I don't know the dimensions of the kitchen, but it is really cute! I like the peninsula w/ the lights over it. I also like the little side cabinet which is pretty.

If you have a floor plan or dimensions for what you want to do, people here are great at coming up with layout ideas and can probably help you come up with a super functional, great looking version of this for your own kitchen :)

Mindstorm, just kind of adding to what buehl said. First day posts of links that don't work are suspicious. We should just all be aware.

Look, I see a picture on post #1 just fine - I don't understand what posts or links aren't working. I saw pictures of the "cool kitchen" right there on post 1 in the daytime when I was browsing from work (wasting time before heading out to a concert) and I do now from my computer at home.

That aside, your cautions are general good-sense and all very well worth living by. However, by your expression, you (and others?) have chosen to consider all first-timers as malevolents - I stand by that it smacks of xenophobia.

I've been here for donkeys years - enough to be fairly bored of it and only pop by once in a while when I'm even more bored/tired in my real life ;-). You say you have information, are an I/T specialist etc. but I don't know that I've "seen" you here (*smile*) NOR would it matter - because barring a few people I've got to know in the flesh - everyone here is an unknown and worthy being chary about. And as far as clicking links all over the place, following links from posters you do know is almost as unsafe because they can unwittingly lead you down the garden path, too.

You advocate that freshmen coming and making posts-with-links spell trouble. Well, a better bit of advice is to treat all links here with suspicion and use the [somewhat] safer way to find the site. (I adopted that policy when I found links to be suspicious of embedded in an email I received years ago. Rather similar to the encounter you narrated.)

That said, your advice about secure practices for internet browsing is very good. I just don't like the way it is couched in terms of new posters and new members.

I didn't see the top photos until I had gone to the second link, then returned. It connected me to the magic I guess.

I think this is a guy kitchen--hang at counter with beers. Higher countertop camouflages kitchen from the rest of room. Not much of a cook's kitchen. No room for bigger stuff and if it's a condo, there's not much room elsewhere either. It could be improved with a rolling cart that you move to the spot you're working. Work surface on top, storage below, and a place to plunk hot things.

Drop that peninsula height down, increase the depth to 24 inches, remove the lights, hang a potrack with light within it over peninsula and you'd have a consolidated work surface for baking, plus you'd improve the storage. Remove the knicknack display and add the space to the end upper cab; do the same on the far end--consolidate two cabs (or even three with a hinged door). Suddenly you can store things with some width to them. Add two pull-out breadboards, one on the sink and one on the outside of the peninsula and you have two sit-and-chop stations. Actually, if the outside of peninsula breadboard were very wide, it could also be a pull-out eating station for two people sitting at stools. Gotta keep it very clean, though.