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New Miele laundry models coming to the USA - Part 2
Comments (7)Haven't heard any detail about this aerodynamic filter technology. The marketing words make it sound like the airflow is controlled in some fashion but when first looking at the new pair at the Miele showroom I asked them if the dryer uses a secondary DC ECM motor to manage airflow like the GE Harmony and the Kenmore Oasis (only on the most expensive model) and they said it's a single motor dryer. I'd believe this is correct since the total venting distance is similar to other single motor dryers on the market. What Miele has developed is still unknown. I'd guess your correct that moving lots of air is probably more efficient than creating lots of heat. For example in HVAC, a higher blower speed will blow more BTU's off a heating coil with a resulting lower air temperature than a slower blower speed with a higher air temperature (in this case the higher blower speed is undesirable from a human comfort standpoint). In a garage an ultra high airflow dryer doesn't really matter, but inside a house in the winter/summer your taking a higher amount of your heated/air conditioned air and ejecting it outside for the sake of drying your clothing more effectively. If this is what Miele is doing, I'm not sure it's an overall efficiency win if the dryer is in a conditioned space. Still too much is unknown about the dryer to be sure of any of this stuff....See MoreNew Miele laundry models coming to the USA
Comments (150)Inspite of the best engineering and intents, problems still come up and from the most reputable companies. If there is a problem, it takes a while before engineering has enough data to figure out the root cause of the failure. Early adopters sometimes are inconvienienced as a result. The important thing to watch is how the company reacts and addresses the customer. If some problem does exist, I'd hope Miele would take care of things with a high degree of integrity. Once heard an example of this type of thing from a truely great German company called Viessmann (they make boilers for HVAC). They found an engineering problem with one of their systems which had yet to cause a failure in the field. Whether people were still under warranty or not, they sent people to implement a fix because they didn't want their customers to have any problems. No government required recall, no consumer outrage, no one even knew there was a problem. They just did it because they knew it was the right thing to do, and it's what customers expect of Viessmann....See MoreNew Miele line coming? How long before it gets to USA?
Comments (24)Waverly66 - I don’t think the link above on the USA website is talking about the 7000 generation appliances. There is no mention of the features in the link whirlpool trainee posted from the German website. There are other products in the US press release - main highlight seemed to be their refridgeration line enhancements and 30” warming drawer. My suggestion is wait and see what hits their website over the next few months. Miele keeps their product offerings very close to their vest and typically don’t make specific announcements until they are basically ready to order. For example the dishwasher I bought was just announced when I was ordering appliances and made a last minute switch to get a new model. Miele announced their XL combi steam oven non plumbed then a few months later announced the plumbed model. Had I known a plumbed model was in the works I would have added the drain before slab. Adding it after the fact was another $1K so I skipped it. Their approach is very different than Wolf Sub Zero - check out the Wolf SubZero next generation website - great information - I have followed it for a few years and their products tend to slip quarter after quarter. Their M class oven was one when I was choosing my appliances that continued to slip. Their current product that has slipped dramatically is their Cove dishwasher announced almost a year ago. I believe that is now finally targeted for April release but we will see. As far as service - you are correct - MIele does not have a US wide service area. Personally I would run like the wind if it will take hours for a tech to get to my house and they will charge me an arm and a leg. There is one Miele tech in my area and he services a huge area. I would call their service department (call in the am to get Princeton) and ask them what the service call charge is for you home. The wait on their technical service line is usually very short particularly first thing in the am. I do find their service folks pretty knowledgeable and helpful. I understand your frustration - good luck!!!...See MoreThermador vs Miele vs. Wolf
Comments (45)I apologize if this is in the wrong thread as this may be my first houzz thread post. Mostly a silent observer but I'm in need of some advice. We're starting a kitchen remodel in July and I've been agonizing over the stove/fridge. First things first, I'm not dead set on matching all of the appliances. I'm a firm believe in best of breed and as some others have posted above means buying different things from different companies. Here's what were planning on installing in the new kitchen: 48 inch stove with dual ovens, we're not splitting the ovens and range top. A 36 inch fridge, was thinking built in but if there are other options to consider I'm game. A dishwasher and perhaps a drawer microwave. I've been waning a Blue Star stove for the longest time but I've now read enough threads here to make me question that. Are they truly that problematic? Between tales of the convection fan turning off when the gas is going in the oven to the horrible customer service, is that really the experience people have had? They look beautiful. I'm more of a no-frills kind of guy and believe that simpler is better and lasts longer. I have a friend with a 20 year old blue start hat has had exactly two things break on it in 20 years: an igniter and a rack clip. That's it. Has the company gone down hill? What attracted me to the blue star was the insane BTU and configuration of using a griddle/grill on any of the burners. The circular grates for a wok are also attractive in my head and purely functional. However the reviews and one appliance store salesman have made me question wether this is a good investment. Originally we had been planning on a built in fridge from BS and the Platinum 48" Stove. So now that I've been reading a bunch more I'm wondering if perhaps I shouldn't consider WOLF or Miele. Between the two which would you choose? Thermador is a contender but Miele seems to have some nice features. As I said I prefer no frills, but it seems that outside of the BlueStar most of the other brands incorporate a bunch of new features and technologies. Before you ask, we do all kinds of cooking. My wife bakes and I do everything sous vide cooking in a circulator bath to low and slow braising, high heat searing of animal proteins, pretty much everything. I always figured that at this level and this price point most of these unites would be fairly bullet proof and last for a good long time. I hadn't really thought about the customer service aspect of purchasing something so pricey but it occurs to me now that perhaps I should. Are there any brands besides Thermador, Miele, Wolf and Blue Star to consider that deliver similar performance or are in that same class? Someone suggested Heston but I wasn't thrilled with what i saw or read about them. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. Cheers....See Moresshrivastava
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