How much was your "painting" bid?
redheadeddaughter
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Any of you painting some of the rooms yourself? How much savings?
Comments (19)Also remember that there is "painting" and there are "finishes", painting is just that, finishes (at least in our area, YMMV) comprises much more including filling nailholes, caulking, staining floors and painting walls, ceilings, baseboard, windows and trim. We are doing all the finish work in our house, including painting walls, windows and trim, sanding and filling nailholes, caulking around trim and staining the hardwood floors. We always knew we would do this to save money and to have control over color and finishes (I am the type who paints a wall with 4 different shades and takes a few days to decide which one I like best). We never bid out the job for our 2100sf, one-off home (with 10' or vaulted ceilings in all rooms), but our general told me we saved ourselves at least $18k by doing it all ourselves. sandyponder...See MoreBids for exterior painting
Comments (4)He's probably telling the truth about getting burned before and like anyone in business would he's looking for ways via a legal contract to protect his business from it happening again. Did you call his references? Did he show up when he told his reference he would? Did he complete the work as specified and within the agreed upon timeframe? Has he honored his contracts with all of his references? There's a lot of blind trust involved when you hire someone to work on your house and it does have to go both ways. He's just trying to cover his bases and you don't want to be ripped off. At some point you have to agree in order for both of you to get what you want and need done. If you want a spot on this painter's schedule, it's gonna cost you. It is not unusual in my experience for painter's to request money up front, half way thru and on completion. This also helps painter's cover at least (some) supplies if they end up with a whacko client who decides to pick apart every little thing and refuse to pay or will only partial pay. I also work with painters who will work on terms of paid 100% on completion -- and that agreement means on completion. Not the next day or the next week. I was surprised at how difficult it can be for painters to collect even with clearly written contracts....See MoreHow did your contractor put together his bid?
Comments (14)I know all about small additions with kitchens that equal big bucks! Although mine is a little larger than 50 square feet, but not by much. It is depressing. I feel like we followed our architect's lead and got led down a rosy path but also got some very good professional judgment (as well as nice work) so it's confusing. If the estimate is based on the architect's drawings and specifications then it should be apples to apples in comparing the bids. If you haven't completed decisions on things like appliances and fixtures you can get all the bids without those (which you can get costs for easily anyway) just to make sure they are pricing the same thing. In our case the architect said that the different firms they recommended were all going to come in around the same cost and the same quality and since we really liked one over the others that's who we went with to get a bid and move forward (we're supposed to start in June). The problems for us really started with the one *estimate* we got (different GC) which was terribly LOW compared to reality. This was what we based our initial decisions on. This started us on the path to having plans drawn up that completely and overwhelming exceeded our budget. Now we're in what I hope are our last throes of making changes to get ready to rumble. By the way, the guy who did the low-balled estimate later would not bid the job unless either he was the only bid we were getting (of course we could still have rejected him and moved on) OR we paid him $3,500 to prepare the bid. It would have been interesting to have had him bid on the job since I think his estimate was 50% off (a poor basis for us to have made decisions)! Later we found out that the architect expected that GC's bid would be off by 20%....See MoreHow to deal with high contractor bids based on your location?
Comments (25)As a cabinetmaker, here is how I judge cost... Any work that I do in the shop costs the same as any other work in the shop. My shop rate is a product of all of my production costs, overhead, insurances, etc, and profit. It doesn't matter if I'm building a 65k kitchen or a 1500 vanity... if I'm in the shop, same cost per hour. Things that change the equation are location.... If I'm traveling more than an hour away from the shop, or in a strange location (many reasons) price creeps up. If we're dealing w/ a difficult or expensive material, price creeps up. Lots of change orders... price creeps up. When I present a price to a client, I actually give them two prices... basically the high end low end pricing for my product. My clients and I typically agree on a price somewhere in the middle. High end options are things like... beaded inset vs. overlay, mantle style hood cabinet vs. microhood cabinet, frame and panel end panels vs. flat plywood, furniture foot details vs. standard toe space, etc... As a business owner I'm constantly adjusting my shop rate, and bottom line. If the price of plywood goes up, so does my bid. If my insurance rates go up, so does my bid. If I find that most of my bids are received... I probably need to start charging a bit more. If I can't get a bid... probably need to come down. It's an ever changing animal. The most frustrating thing is when you ask a homeowner what their budget is and they look at you like you have two heads. Any time homeowners were honest enough to tell me what they have to spend, things have worked out the best. Since I know my costs... and they have 15k to spend... They can pick from a bunch of options to get what they want for the 15k. And... because I'm crazy I guess... I usually give up a few things because the client is easy to work with... My two cents... worth just that -Kris...See Moreredheadeddaughter
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