Health of McClinton Tea and Rhodologue Jules Gravereax?

12 years ago

I see that vintagegardens.com now has both in stock (october 2011)

I've been to their home garden several times but can't remember either rose.

They both appear very beautiful to me, in the photos, and McClinton Tea is said to be quite fragrant

what I'd like to know is how healthy are they?

I have a

-no-spray garden

-c. 20 miles east of San Francisco.

-where conditions favor powdery mildew greatly.

I had to shovel prune 'Ducher' and 'Angels Camp' Tea as well as 'Georgetown Tea' because they defoliated from powdery mildew. My rose budget is small and I don't want to buy another rose that cannot survive a no-spray situation.

Thank you,

Luxrosa

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jaspermplants
12 years ago
I'm in a different climate but I grow Rhodologue and it's a very healthy plant here. It's still young, but blooms regularly and is very fragrant. Doesn't get much mildew here.
organicgardendreams
12 years ago
Luxrosa, my 'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux' is completely free of powdery mildew right now (just went out and looked at him to verify), even though other roses located in the same area have it. As far as I recall he was getting a little bit PM at times in the two years that I have him, but it was never a major issue.

To me it is one of the most beautiful Tea roses that I know of, a real stand-out in terms of the loveliness of the blooms. If you don't get absolutely discouraging reports regarding his PM resistance in your specific climate, if I were you I would try him. He is just too pretty to not give him a chance :-)!

Good luck with the decision making! I would be interested to read what you decide to do at the end.

Christina
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Okay! Here you are, "ye of little faith" ;-) I rummaged around and found the bloom below on my RJG a few minutes ago (the bloom I last showed was disintegrating and not going to open any more than it had, being hemmed in by the buds around it and beat up by last weekend's wet weather). Note that it is not much different from yours (a few more petals, perhaps) and, I should note, this one does have darker reverses on all petals. I would predict, next spring, or perhaps a few more springs from now, you will see blooms on yours like those in my original photos (she does that every year, here, reliably), if all goes well. It is typical for teas to have more sumptuous blooms in spring, from what I see. The diameter of this bloom is 4.5".
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12 years ago
Ducher, Angel's Camp Tea, and Georgetown Tea are also no longer in our yard due to horrific mildew issues.

As noted by Christina, Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux here gets a touch of mildew early in season but within tolerable levels. The blooms are spectacular and very full and withstand heat well. For me, the bush is rather upright and tidy -- more like a hybrid tea, though in no way stick-like.

McClinton tea gets no mildew here, but the flowers blow fast in hot weather (probably not so much a problem on your side of the hill).

Debbie

Health of McClinton Tea and Rhodologue Jules Gravereax?

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