Suggestions for roses like Grandmother's Hat?
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Comments (12)After running around my place like a crazy person this morning trying to find a place for four monster roses somewhere close to the house, I've revised my rose list. It's now GH, Le Vesuve, Salet and Singe Cerise China (the last again thanks to Jeri's enabling skills). The alternates are Indigo and Mme. Charles. My question now is whether anyone has grow Salet in the southwest and what its ultimate size is expected to be. I decided against Mme. Louis Leveque not only because of her larger size but also because of reports on the forum of sparse to non-repeat blooming. At any rate, I'd so appreciate hearing from anyone who has grown Salet and can tell me all about this rose. Thank you. Ingrid...See MoreGrandmother's Hat
Comments (14)"He who shall remain nameless", commonly known as "the unmentionable rose grower" is a rosarian from the San Jose area who used to own a small nursery some 15 or more years ago. He offended Spike Hernandez, former owner of Gardenweb and was banned from this site. Even mentioning his name on GW would get you in trouble, the first time re-directed to the Disney site, and if you persisted, banned yourself. All this happened back in the 1990's. I have no idea if mentioning his name would still get you in trouble now that Spike has sold GW but I'm not going to test it myself. Rosefolly...See MoreSuggestions needed: Buff Beauty / Grandmother's Hat, and --
Comments (5)Well, because of the heat wave (record-breaking temps in S.F.), I didn't feel much like working out of doors today! However, with this rare blast of heat in my chilly garden, I can practically see my roses growing as I watch. Thank you all for your comments. I still can't seem to make a decision about what to put where. I've been thinking of putting Maggie next to Buff Beauty. I'm now wishing I'd placed Grandmother's Hat closer to Buff Beauty and might then place WR Smith on her right. (I'm thinking just now mostly in terms of color and contrast.) I forgot to mention that I also have Dd Brabant, another possibility, but I think for now I'm going to keep the teas in containers. The real problem is that my garden space is so very very small. At this point, I have to hope that my roses don't grow very fast. Also, I'd read today that WR Smith is OK with being cut back to limit his size. Ingrid, do you find W.R. Smith to be very fragrant? I've read contrasting notes about that on HMF. And I do like Lady Ann Kidwell. I can live with the nodding. Because of the limitations on my space and my climate, I am just overjoyed if my roses bloom! I tolerate a lot of things that make others SP a rose. For instance, we have rampant black spot here. And a lot of hungry rose slug action. So I often have a lot of pretty sad looking foliage. But -- the plants keep refoliating and seem overall healthy, so I just don't let it bother me. Jeri, I bought Grandmother's Hat last fall, all because of you, and am I ever glad! She is doing GREAT for me. She shot up to @ 5 feet very quickly, has had two lovely flushes thus far and is about to have another. She's been growing like mad this past month and has many new shoots and fat buds. Thank you so much for bringing her to my attention. Another fan here. Buff Beauty is growing in front of the chain link fence. She's really putting out some growth right now. She's my oldest rose in the ground -- I think it's 4 years now. It took til this year for her to finally take off, and I had my first wonderful flushes of blooms. So far no giant canes, and she's pretty stiff, but I will run her along the fence if possible. I love this rose. Vaporvac, was Maggie slow to bloom for you? I've been reading that she may not bloom for a long time, until she's reached most of her height. Also, I'd read that she is fairly shade-tolerant, so you may not need to give her your best sun, if that's in short supply, as it is for me. Except for this weekend, where the cool gray S.F. fog belt is getting a serious lesson in HOT! Sheba...See MoreGrandmother's Hat not looking so great --
Comments (19)Ingrid, I do agree! I have learned so much here. I don't think I'd even have roses if not for you-all, and I know I wouldn't have rose babies that I've propagated myself! Grandma Update: You know how you can have a chronic malady and you keep delaying a trip to the doctor, and then the day of your appointment, the malady mysteriously -- resolves? You don't? Well, you know how for weeks and weeks your hair will look like the dog's breakfast, and then you finally get an appointment at the hair salon and are all excited, and you wake up the morning of your appointment and your hair is PERFECT?? That's -- sort of what happened this evening. I went out to water the roses and my gosh, what a surprise, I found that Grandma is suddenly pushing out lots more leaflets and some farther down the stems, and canes that (I thought) two days ago were showing NO life actually are showing many tiny little pink and green tips. AND there was a big fat gorgeous open bloom, and another small one. Gram's foliage still looks pallid, and yes, her legs are bare a good ways up, but things look far less bleak. I did bend and tie out some canes and branches so they're not all just shooting up vertically. I will keep a closer eye on Grandma and remember to keep up with the nutrition and extra water. Hopefully, she'll green up and maybe there will be a new basal one of these days. But at least I can see that she's not in a complete free-fall now. Thanks much to everyone for the very helpful information and advice today. Sheba...See Morejeannie2009
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