can't say much about the rest, but teasing georgia, a really healthy pretty plant gets big, as big around as tall and i'd say 8 to 10 feet tall and bigger around!!

growth is very pretty and absolutely no bs!!!

Teasing Georgia, HUGE and leggy and HUGE. I don't spray, fertilize, prune, or water really. Yeah beat me over the head all you want but the roses don't seem to care if I pay attention to them so there ya go. When they start complaining like the dogs do when I don't feed them exactly 3 hours before meal time then maybe I'll do something. I have 2 TG's and they were both bare roots ordered during the hella hot TX months and planted straight in ground after soaking. Again, while it was blazing hot out. I like breaking rules, it irritates others. In 1 year they have gotten to between 6 and 8 feet.

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But the flowers, oh they are lovely. And dang can TG kick these suckers out in volume!!

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I have Tea Clipper. It was growing in a pot last year to see what it looked like and what and how it did. It looks to me to be a large bush when it gets going. The first few flowers on it may be off-color and not smell much. That is what I observed, but that is not unheard of. After it gets going better, it will have better flower color and fragrance. Just don't expect lots of flowers its first year. The flower color does not hold well in the heat either. It does fade. That said, it may be just fine when it gets more established.

8 to 10 feet for Teasing Georgia? Well, I don't think I can plant that in the new bed. Too big. I could trade places with Lady Emma that I just planted along the fence. It can get as big as it wants to there.

Good to know something about Tea Clipper too. I'm not too concerned about fading. If I put it in the bottom tier it will get some afternoon shade which may help.

I just went out and took a photo of the new bed to help visualize. The top tier (new extension)to the right of the path is about 5' x 5', the next one down about 8' x 6' and the lowest about 12' x 6'. The two small bits to the left of the path are about 6' x 6'.
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Jude the Obscure is a good 6' tall X 4' wide for me in the Philly area. So I would think this is a back of the garden rose for you. I remember you posting other pictures of your garden and your setting in just beautiful. Post more when you plant you are finished planting.

Oh good, thanks Carol. I did plant Jude in the back along the fence on the middle tier. I planted an own root baby last year that died back to the ground over the winter so I ordered another grafted one to plant in its place. Lo and behold the own root started sprouting so now I have two right next to each other. I think that's a good thing?

I want to get some of these guys into the ground this weekend, dodging thunderstorms, to get them going. It's been raining since Tuesday with no end in sight as far ahead as next Thursday! I'm not complaining though, I'd rather have more rain than not enough.

Thanks all for the kind comments about our setting. On our own little 5 acre homestead we love living close enough to town for convenience but just far enough out to have a rural lifestyle. My 16 year old daughter would beg to differ!

I saw the Tea Clipper on David Austin's site and thought it was very beautiful. I may have to get one.

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Teasing Georgia is HUGE (easily 8-9' tall)in my yard, as well. A very healthy, vigorous blooming machine.

TG is the rose on the right (pictures taken last year)
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I'm getting excited about Teasing Georgia after all your beautiful photos and positive comments about it. I just went and reread cupshaped (Niels) post on training and pruning lanky roses and I'm going to try his pruning method to keep TG and Tea Clipper in bounds. I think Olga uses some similar methods for some of her Austins. David Austin recommends a very similar pruning method. It will be more work but I think the results will be worth it and I can still use these two in the new bed. I am getting braver at pruning, I did some very extensive pruning this year and didn't even cringe at the thought.

I'm relocating both of my Teasing Georgia plants to the trash bin. It was a lovely plant the first year, but it's been going downhill ever since. It's been a canker magnet, had problems with canes snapping off at the base, and put out huge long canes on what was advertised as a 3-4' bush (should have checked with Garden Web before I planted it!) Granted canker is bad this year, but TG has it the worst of any rose in the yard--I don't think it will survive. Which is a shame, because it is incredibly beautiful in bloom.

so lovely! very inspiring to see the change!

How did I miss Tea Clipper???
Really nice color, huge bloom, and beautiful buds, scented of myrrh like many Austins.
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I bought Tea Clipper on a whim. There were 4 other roses in the group and only TC survived. And I'm glad!

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My Tea Clipper in its second year did not bloom at all! Argghh!! I have pegged it and when that didn't work, I even tried pruning it and still no blooms. Perhaps tea clipper only tolerate a sunny position - not a shady one.

linrose, fabulous pictures. Everything looks so beautiful. It must get rather hot and humid there in the summer, no?

My Tea Clipper has been stingy. It's in a rather dry spot, and is not the most generous with flowers. My theory is that the noisette heritage it has means I'll have to wait several years for it to establish itself thoroughly. Time will tell.

Oui hoovb - it gets very, VERY hot and humid here. That's why I'm so ecstatic over the spring flush when I can go out and enjoy the weather. I basically stay inside in the AC all July and August. The fall flush is equally appreciated for those reasons. I love seeing roses in October and November.

I'm hoping for good things from Tea Clipper, it only has three blooms on it now, I don't know how many buds, but it is over 4 feet high but narrower, maybe 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide. I'm going to have to support it in some way while it is going through its awkward teenage phase. It is in full sun in really good soil so I'm hoping for the best. It is grafted. I decided almost all Austins do better grafted, at least here.

I do have canker problems here too, Maggie always gets it but manages to throw out new canes every year. I lost a lot of roses a few years back to canker after the Easter freeze. TG didn't have any problems with it this past winter even though it was a colder one than normal. Maybe it is because we didn't have the normal January thaw and no real freeze/thaw cycles at all. Hopefully my pyramid structure will help support the canes so they don't snap off. I haven't tied them to it so there are a few errant canes here and there but I like that informality.

Teasing Georgia on a pyramid I made out of copper pipe
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