Research and Current Profile of Iranian Production of Damask Rose
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Is What Pickering Selling as Autumn Damask not the Real Thing?
Comments (21)Jeri and Kim: Thank you for explanation. I guess there is more to classification than flower form and smell. Melissa: I just bought Rose de Rasht this year. Rasht is birthplace of my mother in law and I thought she would get a kick out of it. Her reaction was "Good roses dont grow in Rasht, it is too rainy and humid." I know Rose de Rascht may not be from Rascht but her comment was so mother-in-lawy. My lot is very small and do not have too much space for big Damasks. Although a couple of years ago, a friend gave me a sucker from her own Damask plant. What I could not get out of her was that if she actually brought it from Iran or she bought a named Damask from a nursery, assuming it was the same. I will post pic for ID in spring. Growing up in a city, I had never seen any rose growing wild in Iran. Then again I was a teenager when we left and never an outdoorsy person. If I come across any seed, I will try to bring it back. BTW for anyone interested, Regan still has few more PFSR in hand. You have to call, it is not listed on the online catalog. FJ...See MoreFavorite old roses for cooler climates?
Comments (18)Generally the repeat blooming northern OGR are not spot resistant like the teas and chinas you are used to. But the once-blooming albas and gallicas are iron hardy (meaning cold-resistant), and most of them are spot-resistant. Generally they will not need much irrigation or fertilizer once they are established. The once-blooming, early Asian yellows and once-blooming ramblers are also easy to grow and will extend the season of bloom. If you have mostly once-bloomers, you mostly bypass the Japanese beetles that ravage roses in July and August. Among repeat-bloomers, 'Souvenir de la Malmaison' and its several sports stand out in my eastern 7a garden. If grown without fungicide, they get blackspot, but not as badly as most roses. Then some modern roses to try include 'Earth Song', 'Bolero', 'The Generous Gardener', 'Munstead Wood', 'Laguna', 'Quadra', 'Carefree Sunshine', and 'Caramela'. These are spot-resistant in many gardens. If you haven't had much blackspot this year, it will probably get worse, and most roses will defoliate repeatedly. Micronized sulfur and copper soap are two products that are considered organic and that will help a lot with blackspot if sprayed every week...See MoreHigh Country Roses has moved. Roses love the new location!
Comments (57)Vaporvac, I would love it if you could come. But there aren't any other rose aficionados there. I brought Oranges N Lemons and Sally Holmes last year and there weren't really any takers. The Oranges N Lemons went in the free for all at the end where you just grab whats left but I brought the Sally Holmes home. This year I didn't bring the Gourmet Popcorn I gave away because we hadn't dug it up yet. Instead I advertised it on Nextdoor so someone could research it and really want it. If I thought there would be any interest we would have made more of an effort to get it dug up. In terms of timing they are decided upon a few weeks in advance based on the schedule of the person volunteering to host. BTW, my other Oranges N Lemons I tried to propagate died over the winter in our basement but the Sally Holmes appears to have hung on. It showed a small amount of new growth this spring but is back in the basement due to bad weather. I don't yet know where I will put it if I keep it. The Oranges N Lemons in the yard showed great new growth a month ago but then got badly shredded by the hail. Right now it is looking iffy if it makes it with barely any green on it's little stub of a self. I think if it doesn't I won't replace it with another. We just have bad juju with that rose. First it gets run over with a garden cart the same day it goes in the ground, then the rooting portion dies due to neglect when my mom forgot to water the basement plants while we were on vacation. And now it gets hammered by hail....See MoreDo You Grow Damask Perpetuals?
Comments (23)Belle Gallica, how do Austins do for you? Paul's 'Marianne' and 'Allegra' are listed as zones 6b-9b and 4b-10b...probably due to Austin parents? 'Marianne' is from 'Abe Darby' and 'Allegra' is from 'St.Swithin'. Also, 'Etienne' (4a and warmer) is from 'Chianti'. I know from experience that they rival the old classics and look every bit OGR/Gallica, although I'd say 'Marianne" looks like 'Gloire de Dijon' and 'Charles de Mills' had productive sex. I grew 'Etienne' but gave it away to dear friends who had never seen such decadent, beetroot blooms. The 'Allegra' growing in Paul's garden is speech-defyingly exquisite and my current obsession. I grow a young 'Marianne' since I kept purchasing her, growing her, digging her up and passing her along to people who fell in love. I'm RVR waitlisted again for the other two and WILL NOT dig up and gift my current 'Marianne.' I hope you have wonderful luck with 'Rosa Mundi'. She's lovely! Lindsey, maybe there should be a thread asking everyone to guesstimate the bloom period of their Gallicas, including Paul Barden's? I know, in general, his do bloom for quite a stretch in my garden, but I've never calculated how long, and mine are all rather young because I keep giving them away to friends or acquaintances that are both unfamiliar with them and bewitched by their old rose beauty. Since they are easy keepers here in Portland, I know they will flourish in their new homes unlike blackspot-on-a-stick HTs. I tell everyone that they are like camellias and rhododendrons. Who wouldn't grow a camellia just because it only blooms once a year? Sheila, love the Duchesse! Chris and Lindsey, I'll try to find a shot of my Indigo, too. I have one somewhere. To me, 'Indigo' looks and acts like a (moderately spreading) Gallica, smells like a Damask and repeats like a HP/Portland. It's very healthy here. No "damask crud" noted. How's its health for you, Chris? Carol...See Morecatspa_NoCA_Z9_Sunset14
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