Roux the day I tried to make gumbo
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Comments (8)You can also use file powder as a thickening agent, and this could be added to the separate dish of etouffee at the end. I think it would also provide flavor that would compliment the dish, although I don't think it has much power as a thickening agent. If you are serving the etouffee over rice, it doesn't have to be that thick anyway. File powder can also be added at the table just before eating. Lars This post was edited by publickman on Fri, Jan 18, 13 at 18:47...See MoreWoo-hoo! I made roux!
Comments (19)Once I learned how to make a roux in the microwave, I stopped doing it on the stovetop. You CAN burn it in the microwave if you don't pay attention, but the microwave process tends to be more forgiving. Here's how I do it: Before starting the roux, get all your vegetables cut up--celery, onion, green pepper. Have them ready, because you'll be using them to 'quench' the roux and stop the cooking. Take a large Pyrex glass measuring cup (say, 8 cups)--it needs to be about 3 or 4 times bigger than the volume of roux you're making. So if you're making a roux of 1 cup of oil and 1 cup of flour, an 8 cup measure is ideal. The timings I indicate are based on a roux of roughly 1 cup each of flour and oil, but you need to see how much energy your microwave has; a powerful microwave will, of course, cook things faster, so be on the lookout. And smaller amounts cook faster than larger amounts. In the glass measure, mix roughly equal parts of flour and vegetable oil (I use peanut). Place it uncovered in the microwave, and microwave on HIGH for 2 or 3 minutes. It'll bubble and foam. (What you're doing is driving off the water molecules which are attached to the starch molecules.) Remove the measure, stir up with a fork, and return to the microwave and nuke for a minute. Once it stops foaming, then you need to pay close attention to the degree of browning going on. Remove it, mix it up again. As it starts to brown, cut back on the period that you nuke it--so you may be nuking it for periods of 3 minutes to start, then one minute for a time or two or three, then thirty seconds, then 20 seconds, 10 seconds, etc. until you reach the desired level of brown-ness. Then, when it's as brown as you want it, remove the measure from the microwave and dump a good amount of the veggies in the roux. BE CAREFUL: it will release ungodly amounts of steam, and watch out for spatters; they don't call that stuff 'Cajun Napalm' for nothing. At this point, the coldness of the veggies (and the water content of the veggies) arrests the browning and it'll never get any browner. Mix up well, then add more veggies to get them coated. Add some stock to loosen it all up and tranfer the mixture to the gumbo pot. I never bother being really precise with the amount of oil simply because about 10 minutes before the gumbo is finished I use a ladle and degrease the whole mess. (If you're cooking a gumbo with sausage, it will release a good amount of oil as well, so you need to do that degreasing step anyway. Oh, and don't bother making gumbo with one of those low-fat turkey sausages. It'll taste like hot dogs. If you're not going to use good sausage like andouille or good kielbasa, you're better off omitting the sausage, IMHO.)...See MoreNeed recipe for gumbo.
Comments (12)Uh, asking how to make gumbo is a lot like asking how to make chili. Beans or no? Tomatoes or no? Similarly, you'll find all sorts of definitions and rules, most of which can be broken. Having said that, here are some observations based on many years of gumbo consumption in every place from family dinners to restaurants in New Orleans and southwest La. (My bona fides: I'm part cajun and lived in Louisiana the first 25 years of life. I've eaten--and cooked--lots of gumbos.) Gumbos usually all have a roux. It can be a mild blond roux or a dark mahogany brown roux depending on how much of a flavor you want it to impart and what thickening you want. By the way, the thickening power of a roux is inversely related to its darkness--light rouxs have more thickening power than dark rouxs. But there's no rule to say you can't have some of both. (Gumbos may, in addition, have either okra or file, but not both. For instance, chicken & sausage gumbo is usually a file gumbo--I've never seen okra in one. Likewise, seafood gumbos have might have okra but no file.) A lot of recipes for file gumbo call for adding the file to the pot at the end of cooking and then allowing it to sit for a few minutes. In my family, file was treated as a condiment on the table, add it to your personal taste. I like it a lot, but some people don't want to use as much as I do. Likewise for hot sauce. Have some Tabasco or sriracha on the table for people to heat their individual dishes. Sausage: andouille if you can find it, kielbasa if you can't. Don't bother using low fat sausage. It'll taste like hot dogs. Making a roux can be tricky to the uninitiated, but you might try the technique in the recipe that follows. If you have access to a water 'bullet' smoker (Brinkmann or similar, electric or charcoal), it's worth smoking up a bunch of chickens just to be able to make this recipe. Smoked Chicken and Andouille Sausage File Gumbo 1 fryer 3 to 4lbs, smoked 1 -1 1/2 lbs andouille sausage (see notes) 1/2 lb baked ham, diced (see notes) 1 bell pepper, chopped 1 bunch green onions, chopped 2 cups onions, chopped 2 qt chicken stock (see notes) or water 1 tsp black pepper, freshly ground 2 tbsp chopped parsley 1 tbsp minced garlic 1/2 tsp cayenne 1 1/2 tsp thyme 3 bay leaves Flour vegetable oil Salt Gumbo File This recipe takes a fair amount of time, but the labor can be spread out over days. You can smoke the chickens one day, make stock another, and assemble the gumbo on yet another day. It works best with chickens smoked in a water smoker (Brinkmann or similar device) but you can substitute rotisserie chickens from the supermarket if you don't have a smoker or the time. It freezes beautifully, so I usually multiply the recipe 4 or 6 fold. A 'single' recipe (i.e., one chicken) makes a great meal for 4 hungry or 6 polite people. Get some chickens in the 3 to 4 pound range. Season them generously with black and red pepper. Smoke them for 4 hours or so in a smoker using hickory or pecan wood. (Don't use mesquite; it's too resiny for this dish.) If you use rotisserie chickens, use the ones with the simplest flavorings; don't go for the heavy barbecue sauced ones. Remove the meat from the cooked chickens and reserve, saving the skin and bones to make stock. Put the skin and bones in a stockpot with onions, celery and garlic. Figure roughly 1 medium onion, two stalks of celery, and one garlic clove per chicken carcass. Don't add salt. Add 1 or 2 qt. cold water per chicken carcass and bring up to a simmer. Skim off any scum that rises to the top, simmer for at least a few hours. Strain it. Before making a roux, have your onions and other vegetables chopped up. You'll use them to arrest the browning of the roux. Make a roux: in a large pyrex measure (at least twice as large as the oil and flour, and bigger is better) or microwaveable glass bowl, use 1/2 cup oil and 1/2 cup flour for every chicken. (So if you're making a 6-chicken recipe, that would be 3 cups oil, 3 cups flour in a vessel no smaller than 12 cups, and larger is better). Put it in the microwave on high for 3 minutes. It'll bubble and froth. Stir it well, nuke it again for 2 minutes. Stir. Nuke again for 1 minute. Stir. Repeat the nuke/stir cycles, 30 seconds at a time, until it turns medium brown (about the color of peanut butter) At that point throw in some of the chopped vegetables to arrest the browning. It'll steam (be careful). Mix well. Put the roux and the rest of the vegetables in the bottom of a stock pot, mix well, add a little of the stock and mix again; then add the sausage, ham, all the seasonings except for salt and file powder, and the rest of the stock. Simmer for about 30 minutes. The oil from the roux and the sausage will rise to the top; ladle it off and discard. During this time, make some rice. Add the reserved chicken meat, simmer for another 10-15 minutes. Degrease the dish again. Add salt only if needed (probably won't need it, especially if you used canned chicken broth). Serve over boiled rice. Each diner may wish to add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of gumbo file to his dish. Leftover gumbo can be frozen; figure 1 to 2 cups per person, and make a fresh batch of rice while the gumbo is thawing. Nothing better on a cold winter night. Notes on ingredients: Andouille is a rich and spicy smoked sausage. Acceptable substitutes are kielbasa or smoked sausage. Don't use low-fat turkey sausage--it'l taste like hot dogs. Ham: get a chunk from the deli and cut it into 1/2 inch dice. Gumbo file is powdered sassafras leaves; it thickens the broth and gives an herbal touch. Both of these ingredients are available at most big supermarkets. Chicken Stock: If you don't want to make stock, you can use canned stock but that can make the dish salty. If you can find reduced-sodium broth, that's the best. You can always add salt if needed. Half canned stock and half water is okay. It'll even taste acceptably good if you use 100% water instead of stock, but stock makes it richer. For the ultimate in rich flavor, use the liquid from the smoker's water pan as part of the liquid you use to make your stock; just be sure to strain it well....See More- 8 months ago
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