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Well, I have been informed that the other night minion at my job has put her notice in. Which means I will be work lots and lots and lots of overtime for the next few months. As my day shift counterpart hates both overtime and night shift, I did agree to work the bulk of it. So after next week, I can expect to be working 7 12 hour night shifts, then be off one, then do it again until someone is hired and trained. hopefully only 2 or 3 months.


While I will be tired, the concept does not stress me out. I am paid hourly and Halloween-Christmas is an extremely expensive time for me. Lots of treats to buy. Plus, I agreed to it so no whining from me. I like and have fun with all the people on all shifts, so I will make the best of it easily.


What DOES stress me out is the worry about who they choose to replace her. The last 4 hires in my department have been family members of current employees, who were handed the job on a golden platter, and it shows. I will admit that a couple of them were just fine, even great. The one who is leaving is the wife of one of the managers of another department and I will miss her. She was easy to work with and get along with and did her job well. The others are/were simply terrible and made/make work life extremely irritating sometimes. While I will never claim to be a perfect judge of character, I can say with honesty that my supervisor has the absolute WORST priorities when choosing a candidate. For example, family ties should mean nothing. As demonstrated by one of my current coworkers in question, just because someone's mommy is lovely and well liked, doesn't mean the person she raised is worth a flip. Cause he's NOT. I have never before really met anyone that NOONE likes. NO ONE. (except our supervisor, who is in love with his bromance buddy) Also, he (supervisor, not loser mommy boy coworker) has a weird obsession with hiring more men, something my industry and the facility where I work is simply overrun by. And a weird age range he is insisting on (late 20s to mid 40s) I told him to be careful with all of that. I find those things to be extremely unimportant in a hiring process. He excludes people for dumb reasons, and overlooks LARGE red flags on other candidates resumes.


For example, one resume is from a man who has held his current job for 19 years. However, there is a 2 year gap in his work history. That is a problem for him. WHY? A lot of people have had rough patches. But this person has had the same job for 19 YEARS and you are worried about a little gap before that 19 year streak? He focuses on that but sees nothing wrong with the "entrepreneur" who has her own business but has had over a dozen jobs in as many years. Why? Because her "business" is braiding hair, and she JUST so happens to be a friend of the aforementioned loser mommys boy coworkers wife, who also does hair. He took issue with a lady who has worked in a similar industry and capacity for years because "if she wants to do the same type of work then why is she leaving her current job." And that indicated disloyalty. But is considering hiring one of the men who works for a contractor at our facility, despite him not having any type of related experience at ALL. Because "he's cool."


And its not just me. Since us in our department work with LOTS of other people throughout the company, many have expressed to me concerns about who they will choose to replace her. Because they have had to deal with the nepotism/friend hookup hires as well, and are concerned that another one is coming, and will just make the place worse.


I am also concerned with how they are going about advertising the job. The position is night shift. And I feel like that should be stated in the listing. I feel like unless it is otherwise noted, most people assume that jobs are for regular business hours, i.e. dayshift. Also, no where in the listing is it noted that we work 12 hour shift, are expected to answer call outs and work scheduled overtime to fill in for others. While I do not want to tell HR how to do their job, I cannot help but feel that it will waste a lot of time going through the several dozen applicants that come with every job posting from the company, conducting interviews, and then springing it on them maybe at the interviews that "BTW the hours for this job are 5pm-5am. 4 on and 4 off. But not really because you will be expected to cover for your coworkers vacations or PTO days, and will sometimes be called in." I feel like a lot of people do NOT want that, and would not even apply, and therefore wouldn't it be easier to post as many details as possible to ensure that only people who are willing to work in such an environment apply?


But, as I have NO say and if I were to express an opinion or offer my advice, the person choosing the candidate will just do the opposite out of spite (well, maybe not spite, male pride and stubbornness against taking a womans advice. A woman I might add, who has been 100% correct about all the other hires, including the one that is leaving, as I told him given her track record and temperament that she will last about 2 years, which she has. And the mommys boy, who I said would NOT get along with anyone due to his arrogance and entitlement and that has come to pass as well.) I shall just resolve to help in any way I can, and make the best of it.


Wish me a lucrative and uneventful next few months! Just THINK of all the CHRISTMAS lights I am gonna be able to buy with my overtime pay!!!!



Comments (33)

  • last year

    That really sucks. I worked a similar job a few years ago where the supervisor, for reasons best known to himself, refused to advertise or hire staff. It was in a hockey stadium cafe based at a university which had a lot of international (mostly Asian) students looking for part time work so it would have been ideal for them as the work was part time and seasonal. And I feel sure the Asian students would have been reliable and worked their butts off.

    But instead, when we had our crazy busy times when there was a state or international hockey carnival on, we were stuck with whatever friends of her granddaughter the head cook could rope in. They were generally lazy and happy to stand around at slow moments chatting among themselves while I was buzzing around restocking the fridges, cleaning up the espresso machine area and restocking the supplies, etc.

    It made me so angry but there was nothing I could do about it as the stadium's board of management had no clue how to run a cafe so they left it up to the cafe supervisor, except when they had a crazy stupid idea to "streamline" service such as installing an automatic coffee selling machine to replace our espresso machine, which resulted in pretty much the same amount of work for me restocking the machine and cleaning up after patrons who slopped their coffee everywhere and littered the place with empty sugar packets and stirrers, but reduced our coffee sales to about a quarter of the previous espresso sales, because the machine made lousy coffee.

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    Man! I used to H A T E overtime! You once said your paid well, that should make it all OK....but...I know you feel your taking on an unnecessary burden to hold this company up. I do enjoy your holiday posts. I think you should reward yourself with somethng BIG. Is there anything your heart desires right now? Something pink catch your eye?

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  • last year

    Some people are just plain terrible at their jobs - and when they're in positions of power, they cause more people, and the business, to suffer the consequences of their bad decisions - it's such a shame.

    Here's hoping your worst fears don't come true and everything works out for the best...

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    I love your holiday descriptions of the decorations you put up, the candy dishes, the holiday meal stuff you make for the family gathering. I am happy for you that your overtime will plump up the budget for those things you love to do. I am hoping that whoever is hired, is competent and easy to get along with.

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  • last year

    Although I can wait, I can't wait to see your decorations!!!


    I'm sorry that it's going to get funded this way, but I'm glad to hear that you can handle it well.


    I wish you luck on your future coworker.


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  • last year

    It's so frustrating to have to work with and clean up after incompetent managers and co-workers. Maybe you will be lucky and get someone reasonable as a replacement. I certainly hope so. In the meantime, I hope the long hours don't wear you down. Overtime pay is nice, but not at the expense of your health and happiness.

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    You've been through a new hire scenario there before. You know what to expect and you're not pleased to be excluded from the screening and hiring processes. That angers you, though I don't know why you'd let the same thing grind in to your happiness over and over. I can see three choices and there may be more:

    1. You can communicate your desire to move up to a different job or higher level of responsibility at the company so that you will be involved in future instances. If such a move is possible with what you do and in the structure,

    or

    2.. You can suck it up, drop the attitude, and keep your head down doing your job as normal. Many decisions are made at every employer that folks at lower levels are not part of. This just happens to be one of them. Mind your own business and accept that it is what it is.

    or

    3. You can leave and work elsewhere.

    Good luck.

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  • last year

    I understand your frustrations.

    With jobs so hard to fill these days, do you think they might be leaving out many ’undesirable’ details just to get people to apply? I know it seems like it would weed out many, but perhaps your supervisor directed this, which is another way he can encourage his preferred people to apply.

    Can’t wait to see your holiday decorations. Enjoy some weeks of peace meanwhile and don’t forget to use some of that overtime cash on yourself!


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  • last year

    Elmer, few things:

    I am not ANGRY, I am concerned. And that concern does not come from thin air, but from recorded history. I want NO PART of the screening or hiring process. I want the process used to be both fair and to make sense. To me, it makes no sense to hire a grown man who no one else wants because of his incompetence and arrogance as a favor to his mommy, when there are most likely a slew of qualified, nice candidates to consider. And I do not in any way consider the pick mes over in HR "higher up" than me. Here, they make the final call on hiring though. 7 years ago, the head HR troll vetoed a candidate that had been screened, interviewed and chosen by my boss at the time because her sisters husbands sister needed a job. And she didnt have to do anything to get it. My boss never even met her before her first day. She was an annoying shrew, and everyone had to tiptoe around her and ignore her obnoxiousness because of her connection to HR. And now she doesn't even work here anymore. What is the point of that? Would you be okay with that sort of behavior? I do not even know why my current boss is looking at resumes, if someone that HR likes has a friend that needs a hook up, they are gonna get it. I would not think that you would agree that that is a smart or beneficial way to staff a business. But maybe you do.

    I NEVER keep my head down, it is high in the air. Probably why you think I have an "attitude" to drop. I call it as I see it.

    It is my GD business. Any time any company hires someone, it is the business of those who have to work with them or around them. Its not my DECISION, but it is my business.

    I hope you do not ever complain about or express concern for or get annoyed with your wife. Just divorce. Hope you agree fully and lick the backsides of all government officials and their decisions and actions. If not, you have an attitude and can just move out of the country. I can like my job without loving every aspect of it. I accept what it. But that does not mean I have to LIKE it or that I cannot vent about it. In the long run, what I have seen in this regard has been detrimental to the business that I work for. I can express concern about that. I know that as a "higher up" in your working life, you probably look down upon those who are on what you consider "lower levels" and that is sad. I don't see levels. I see different, equally important parts all working together towards a common goal.

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    Outside, yes i do think that is why they did that. I also think its dumb because there are not a lot of people that want to work the hours required. And I think they need to be up front to avoid wasting time sifting through tons of applicants, if most of them are not willing to do what's required. This company does not lack interest as far as people trying to apply. The company provides fair pay and great benefits, and had for many decades, and the people who live here know it.

    I am excited for decoration season as well. On that note, hope the newbie isn't a sniveling fuddy duddy who whines about "witch imagery" like mommys boy!

  • last year

    From elmer :

    “That angers you, though I don't know why you'd let the same thing grind in to your happiness over and over.”


    Elmer, there are reading comprehension classes available and maybe a lock for a certain cabinet

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    Your cowardly insult - is it because of anonymity or does it indeed come from a bottle?

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    " I know that as a "higher up" in your working life, you probably look down upon those who are on what you consider "lower levels" ...

    No Amy, not at all, and much more the opposite. .

    There a religious connection to the following that makes me hesitant to quote it but this is what I think you need to think about:


    " grant me the courage to change the things I can change, the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, and wisdom to know the difference. "

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    Cronyism and nepotism are toxic, IMO.

    And FWIW, I've seen a number of accounts of people calling out such bad bait & switch hiring practices too - it's apparently a thing - and despicable.

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    I think in many of these situations, the perpetrators are more likely to be clueless and inept than being deliberate evil doers.

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    I think my insult to you was because of your presumptuousness

    Anonymity is just built in to the forum - if you were at my house I might be slightly more polite

    But then you might not have made your remarks in person either

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    I don't like people or waste my time with those who think it's okay to deliberately and gratuitously insult others. Thanks for letting me know, how sad.

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    I'm sorry Elmer that ...


    “That angers you, though I don't know why you'd let the same thing grind in to your happiness over and over.”

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  • last year

    In this job climate be glad you know it's only temporary. Many businesses are cutting back, laying people off and while its horrible for those let go it's no piece of cake for those left to pick up the slack. Sometimes it's better to be the first out the door.

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    I fail to see the point of encouraging people to apply, reading through their resumes and then interviewing them only to find at the last hurdle that they don’t want to work night shift. What a colossal waste of everyone’s time. Much better to advertise that it’s night shift, so you only interview applicants who have some prospect of taking the job.

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    Ha - you'd think such sensible thinking would prevail, wouldn't you?

    Too bad it doesn't seem to for some people...

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  • last year

    I was @ Home Depot. They have these HUGE....maybe 12' tall skeletons, scary witches....I wonder if you could put one out in front of the building at work...to greet you when you come in? Wouldn't THAT be fun! Link to shop till ya drop in Halloween heaven....you should find something here

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    Do you know there's a Facebook page for those skeletons?


    There is one nearby my house. They keep it up year-round. I would love to see it "wear" clothes and change them for the season/holidays. Could you imagine one dressed as the Grim Reaper? shiver

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/179562984163315/

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  • last year

    " In this job climate be glad you know it's only temporary. Many businesses are cutting back, laying people off... "

    According to the BEA (Bureau of Economic Analysis), GDP was up 9.1% in 2022, 6.3% in 2023, and at 1.4% Q1 '24 and 2.8 Q2 '24. The job climate has been hot for many years. Someone having trouble getting a job is either in the wrong location or doesn't have skills in demand - both of which are fixable problems.


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  • last year

    Amylou, I like your attitude, and I’m sure your coworkers will appreciate your take: more OT means more holiday festiveness!

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  • last year

    Saw this on FB and thought of you!

    I love Halloween and flamingos, if we still lived in the city I would so do this!



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  • last year

    Not only worth repeating, absolute perfection.


    "I hope you do not ever complain about or express concern for or get annoyed with your wife. Just divorce. Hope you agree fully and lick the backsides of all government officials and their decisions and actions. If not, you have an attitude and can just move out of the country. I can like my job without loving every aspect of it. I accept what it. But that does not mean I have to LIKE it or that I cannot vent about it. In the long run, what I have seen in this regard has been detrimental to the business that I work for. I can express concern about that. I know that as a "higher up" in your working life, you probably look down upon those who are on what you consider "lower levels" and that is sad. I don't see levels. I see different, equally important parts all working together towards a common goal. "

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    You both need to practice how to deal rationally with situations when people disagree with you. Without responding with insults. That's what well-adjusted adults do. Some youngsters with proper parental guidance learn to do it too.

    (Edit to add - I ignored the first iteration, it didn't warrant being repeated.)

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    Kathyg, the flamingos! Love it! Pink, Halloween, totally Amylou!

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  • last year

    Saw that Tractor Supply is selling rooster skeletons for Halloween and thought of this thread...

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/catalog/halloween-statues?cm_sp=Holiday%20LP--Tile--Lawn%20Statues

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    I NEVER keep my head down, it is high in the air.


    Just now reading updates to this thread and ran across this. Awesome.

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  • last year

    Colleenoz, this reminded me my BI’s interview for a pharmacist position when they related dating.

    He did not want weekends and that was a check box in the application.

    After a lengthy interview, he was told that the position required every other weekend.

    He got up and said, “ This interview is now over” and walked out!

    They thought they could slide it in!

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