I cannot read the drawing it needs to be able to enlarge enough to be able to read masurements . I will say J&J bathrooms are the worst possible choice just make that bathroom accessible from the hall and in your case even more important since boys and girls do not share well. Toilet rooms are a waste of space unless you go the European route of an actual separate space from the bathroom. No one should be using the toilet while some one else is in the bathroom ever.

I would agree that J&J's are not great. If you really want it, I guess go for it, but they are not my favorite. I tried to get rid of the one in my house.

Regarding the master: door swing into the bath seems awkward to me. You will have to walk around the door to enter/exit. I might consider moving the door down by the shower/tub - and possibly eliminating the tub for a larger shower - that one seems awfully small. In our current home, we have this set up. The shower is tiny and cramped. If you don't take regular baths I would reconsider.

The first bedroom in that 3 bedroom group (can't read it) is HUGE but has a teeny tiny closet. Change that closet to a reach-in on the hallway wall.

The toilet in the last bedroom is up against the wall of the other bedroom, which isn't pleasant for that kid.

I honestly think that you have a ton of space up there - lots of very large bedrooms - and a lot of different ways to arrange it. I would be tempted to make the entire right side the master wing, and put the kids/guest rooms in a cluster on the left. This would reduce the amount of hallway SF that you could incprporate into other spaces. But maybe you have other reasons for arranging things this way?

Not sure what's new vs existing, but for the Office it looks like if you just move the door to the front of the vestibule you have your ensuite room. For the J&J, it's not really one unless you can separate a shower/toilet combo from the vanity. You do, as mentioned, have a big chunk of room available in the lower right corner of that Bedroom (#2 maybe?).

@Patricia Colwell Consulting slow reply - had a family situation come up so just coming bacj to this now! will try to post an enlarged plan later! Really appreciate your thoughts!

two immediate questions: idea behind jack and jill is that we might have two kids share a room on one side with the playroom on the other and eventually would separate kids to either side. would definitely just be girls.

i totally agree i prefer a hall door but if we do hall opening, we wont have a window in that bathroom. i like the idea of a window in a larger room.

point taken on toilet - its sort of how they operate now but can see it hanging as they age!

@anj_p this is a remodel and im trying not to go too crazy otherwise i love your idea of flipping the master/kids wings!

good point on toilet - existing walls are all plaster and incredibly soundproof but this new one wont be so going to make sure to raise that question!

im torn on reach in closet - its what they have now, but it feels like being able to shut a door would be nice? were also used to using dressers so maybe a nice furniture piece could be a ckmpromise? going to think about that!

totally agree on master bath and Im frustrated our architect hasnt suggested it. the window makes a large shower there awkward but we dont hse a tub!

thanks for taking the time tk look and give advice!

@3onthetree it sounds like you agree with others we should make that jack and jill open to the hall. more valuable than having a window in the bathroom? going to look more at how to take space from that big kids room (we were thinkjng that would be shared at first then wed move a kid across to other side of jack and jill). i do think we’re going to move that other door to make the end bathroom have an en suite!

Bump because I’m curious others’ thoughts though still need a better floorplan to upload!

Welcome back.
Yes I think a window in the bathroom is not worth the hassle of a jack and Jill. Especially if the private activities are not behind another door, which means door locks need to be provided from the inside... and inevitably kids get locked out.
Regarding reach in vs walk in... you are really sacrificing closet space and you have enough room to do French door reach ins so you can still close doors on it. Plus it gives privacy... an additional sound buffer either between bedrooms or between the bedroom and the hall... or even a bathroom.

You have enough bedrooms and bathrooms for all kids, so I’m kind of confused at what you’re trying to achieve?

@emilyam19 we actually dont - four kids in a currently 4 bedroom house! we also have semi frequent out of town guests so something we could use as a playroom/guest bed or a kids bed down the road would be valuable! we’ve done fine in our smaller house but hoping to only renovate once here so really thinking about having older kids.

@3onthetree wow! youre amazing - thank you! this really helps me think about the space! i love the second quick scheme idea - they can definitely travel for a tub! going to run it past my husband!