OGRs climate question
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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Comments (12)I don't know of any nurseries that will bare root an own-root for shipping. I have seen vendors partially remove some of the soil on a larger rose to reduce the shipping weight. It is a gamble to do this, as there is a chance the plant will go into shock and die. Bare root is typically reserved for grafted roses on vigorous rootstock. Nowadays with shipping costs like they are, I buy own root as bands in the spring, plant them into gallons, stepping them up as the root system populates. At the end of the summer, I typically have a well developed 2-gallon plant, ready to plant into the garden. This works well for z7, I don't know how it would work for z5. It is really better to plant in the spring in z6 and below, so the plant have a chance to get established before winter....See MoreAdolescent warm-climate OGR's
Comments (23)Sherry - I think your words are appropriate for growers of modern roses as well. And please excuse my response here on the Antique Forum from someone who doesn't have any Antiques (do DA's or Romantica's count?) - but I like lurking here as often the posts are depthier. My oldest roses are 3 years (perhaps 5 as a few of the first roses I purchased were already 2). My gardening experience is still so young - but even this soon, each year, I see each rose iterate into new renditions of themselves. Most get stronger and more beautiful over time. For the few that are tending in the other direction, I try to pamper them more, and determine what they are missing. There have been a handful that I have thought about removing, but I have yet to do that to one rose (but don't ask me about the Gardenias - yanked my 2nd one today, ugh...) I'm still watching a few, and keeping a mental possible removal list, but my gut tells me to watch them and see how they do over time. Medallion, Europeana and Grand Masterpiece are watched with a skeptical eye, but all three this year have given me periods of time of complete surprise (and joy). So, I've been happy I haven't removed them. Then Proud Land has been moved, and still looks lousy, but this year I've had 2 blooms that have been stunning. So I'm glad I moved "less than Proud" Land to a background place where her overall homeliness isn't noticeable. I'm noticing the DA's are slower growing than my HT's and Floribundas. I really watch daily with a quiet excitement, as they change and mature before me. Young Lycidas whose first canes dragged the ground, has canes that are now trying to poke up into the air. Mary Rose who spent her first year napping exploded this year. There are roses like Purple Tiger and Barbara Streisand that are new this year, both with pretty poor reputations. PT has been doing really well for me, very small blooms, but with color combinations nothing short of brilliant. Roses like this embody hope for me, one of the most marvelous sensations of gardening. Bolero is in her 2nd year. Her few blooms in her first year were stunning, in her diminutive year end size of about 1' x 1'. She stayed quite humble this year until a few weeks ago, and now she has gone crazy in our first heat wave of the year - cane's leaping into the air, covered in the most magnificant blooms. I completely get the growing child analogy, as I look upon my rose children with such pride and glee. And those that are troubled bring parallel emotions to that experience as well - as I feel saddened, and exert extra effort to mend. I notice same with many of the companion plants in the garden. The Dahlias, Mums, Lilies and many more, get stronger and more beautiful over time. I yanked the 2 gardenias because it was clear they were dying and all my attempts to remedy their issues were failures. I can't help it - I see what I plant, as lives to be cherished. They are gifts of nature, and I feel unfit to be judge of their fate if their only issue is that they do not aesthetically please me....See MoreQuestions re Munstead Wood in hot, dry climates
Comments (50)Thanks for that helpful bit of info, vaporvac. I hope I'll retain it in my computer challenged senior brain. All of fragrancnutter's roses are just incredible, including her Young Lycidas. My YL is several years old, and until this year was pretty floppy, but I didn't mind, because he sort of fit in with the roses around him, leaning on them a bit without getting thuggish. Now, he's getting some muscle and doesn't need to lean so much. My YL isn't quite purple, but isn't hot pink, either. It's a slightly odd but beautiful color with a lighter colored outer border of petals--and there are lots of petals. His scent is luscious. Mine could bloom a little more, and there's resting between bloom periods. Here are a few photos of varying color. Diane YL leaning on Colette This shows the lighter outer petals which are often, but not always present....See MorePatio (sliding) door options -Arizona or hot climate specific question
Comments (3)You might consider calling Western Window Systems on E. Riverview Dr. and chatting with them about what you need. https://www.westernwindowsystems.com/contact-us...See Moremad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
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