it's that time again... corned beef brisket
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Comments (2)Botulism isn't usually a concern if its cured with nitrates/nitrites. The 'Prague' is adding nitrites (and nitrogen) to the meat and has a preservative effect, which makes it stay pink. They use these in pepperoni, and you have probably seen pepperoni and other meats that are not even refrigerated, like some specialty sausages and even summer sausages. Because you don't have good control over the amount or salt and nitrites/nitrates in the Morton Tender Quick, it tends to be suitable for those who are not too concerned if its overly salty, or just want to give it a simple single try. When I make this brine, its usually the meat that gets weighed and the brine amount its based on the salt and Prague (nitrites/nitrates) and water. Here, I do use measuring devices, as its important to get the right amount of salt, and after curing if its too salty its hard to remove it. Prague is also got pink color and salt added so its not just pure nitrites/nitrates. If it were, it would be about 1/8 the amount that is in a tablespoon of Prague. They do this so that its easier to measure or weigh the nitrites/nitrates, and you are less likly to over do the amount. Soaking the meat for that long (2 weeks!? )is too much time. No matter what the books say. I use a meat pump, an oversized hypodermic needle and syringe and inject the brine into the meat. Because a brisket is quite thin, it needs very little brining, maybe 2-3 days tops. A very low, slow cooking is essential for a tender result. In this forum are many sources for the nitrites and nitrates and other curing supplies as well as links to recipes. Corned beef is also made into pastrami, by coating the outside with the same pckling spices and baking very slowly like 6 hours at 250 degrees. Usually the nitrates are used for longer, slower air curing, and nitrites are used for fast curing like sausages and corned beef. They also identify these as Instacure #1 and Instacure #2. Here, I don't use a pickling spice mix per se, but instead grind up peppercorns, mustard seed, coriander, bay leaf, celery seed, dried garlic, onion, and a few other spices (done in a small blender type coffee grinder) THis spice mix is also added to the brine. Suggest that uou remove it from the brine now, and rinse it off well, then either simmer to cook it very slowly for several hours, or bake at a very low 200-250 degree oven, covered, for about 4-6 hours. The internal temp should eventially reach about 160. I have even made a great pastrami from very lean eye of the round, which in itself tends to be quite tough. Not sure if you actaully tasted the brine before it was soaking the meat, but if it was overly salty, it may result in that same end result. Years ago, before I started making cured meats, my mom had gotten a recipe off a package of Morton Tender Quick to make a hamburger type pepperoni that was wrapped in aluminim foil like a big sausage and baked. It did turn out quite interesting, but was a bit salty. I still have that almost full bag of Morton Tender Quick here, for nearly 30 years now, and have not used any since. Lots of good info on nitrates and nitrites at this link to: http://www.butcher-packer.com/pages-document_general_info/product-743/nitrite-and-nitrate-curing-salt.html Here is a link that might be useful: Butcher Packer...See MoreNeed some cooking advice for a beef brisket
Comments (9)Low and slow. Iowagirl's would be good. A long time ago (look at the date! LOL) I posted about cooking a brisket for bison and this sounds pretty close to what I did..shred or sliced thin and made a BBQ sauce. Posted by jen_tx (My Page) on Thu, Jun 22, 06 at 12:19 I have a wonderful brisket recipe. It's from a cookbook called Stir Ups that the Junior Welfare League of Enid, OK put out. I usually make this in my roaster oven and put it out in the garage so it doesn't invade my dreams! Everytime I make it, it gets rave reviews. (I already had it typed out in Word, thank goodness!) BBQ Brisket 5-6 lb. Brisket (I use one with the fat trimmed off) Seasoning Salt Garlic Salt Worcestershire Sauce Pepper Sprinkle brisket generously with seasoning salt, garlic salt, Worcestershire sauce and pepper. Bake 30 minutes at 450°. (I put the brisket in a disposable pan with deep sides.) Cover brisket in foil and bake 7-8 hours at 225°. When done, pour juice off and chill both brisket and juice. Remove solidified fat from top of juice and slice brisket thinly. (an electric knife works best) Sauce: 1 C. Ketchup 1/3 C. Worcestershire Sauce ¾ C. Brown Sugar 1 Tbsp. Lemon juice For sauce: Use 2 cups of juice (add water if needed to make 2 cups). Combine all sauce ingredients with the 2 cups of juice from the cooked brisket and heat. Pour sauce over sliced brisket and heat in medium oven till hot...See Morecooking beef brisket
Comments (6)I do what colleen does....but I don't use ginger ale. I remove the meat from the package, save the spice package, rinse the meat and put it into a roaster or a dutch oven large enough to cover it with water. I add the spice packet and an onion quarters a couple of whole peeled cloves of garlic. Bring to a simmer on the stove top....turn the heat down and keep at just the barest simmer for about an hour per pound of meat.... Or in the oven at a temp between 200 and 225 ( 212!). Cool a 20 minutes in the broth, remove....and for really easy slicing, chill, then slice. And that broth makes a really good base for pea soup....it's very salty so you will want to add some water.....but don't toss the broth!!...See Morequestion about beef brisket
Comments (15)I just cooked one Sunday and it was delicious! I use to do the marinade and barbecue sauce and all that junk.I prefer serving my homemade barbecue sauce on the side.Liquid smoke is very strong so if you have never used it be careful.My DS used a whole bottle of it once for marinading one and it was so strong I couldn't eat it. For the past couple of years the only seasoning I use is salt,pepper and garlic powder.Sprinkle all three liberally over both sides of the brisket.Cut a large onion in quarters and place on top.Wrap tightly in a double layer of heavy duty aluminum foil,(or if you have a big enough slow cooker or electric roaster,use that on low heat),fat side down and place in a large baking pan.The pan should be deep enough to catch any juices that might "accidentally" seep out.Trust me,I know this from experience.LOL Briskets produce a lot of juice. Preheat oven to 400* and place the pan in the middle rack.Let it cook for about 30 minutes then turn the oven down to 300* and cook for about 6 hours for a 7-8 lb. brisket.I usually put it in the oven before I go to bed around midnight.After the 400* temp bake,I turn the oven to 200* and let it cook all night and turn off the oven around 7-8 AM.After it is done you can pour off the juice and add barbecue sauce or anything else you like or make gravy from the liquid.Let it stand for at least 30 minutes before slicing.Slice against the grain. Lately I have been buying the trimmed briskets.They are a little more expensive per pound but in the long run it is a bargain because you aren't paying for 3 pounds of fat.The ones I buy have just enough fat on the bottom to keep them tender and juicy.I cook them the same way as the whole ones. Briskets are one of the easiest cuts to cook in my opinion.Very little preparation and no watching! Leftovers,if you have any,can be made into sandwiches. Enjoy your brisket! Here is a link that might be useful: Cooking times for Brisket...See More- 5 years ago
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