This is the link to the installation PDF. Looks like the fridge will not allow you to open the oven doors completely. That's a big issue.

https://products.cafeappliances.com/MarketingObjectRetrieval/Dispatcher?RequestType=PDF&Name=31-11065-2.PDF&_ga=2.39497633.320110062.1586909114-2056740011.1586909114

BeverlyFLADeziner Thanks-I have that printout. I just need to know if anyone has information on how their installation went. Also, the photo is not the same model I am looking at. I don't know if the installation is the same. I know it looks like the fridge will be in the way but I have seen other photos with the fridge next and they have said it is not a problem. My cabinet is 27" deep.

Edit: Do you know anything about this one CTD70DP2NS1? The installation Specs look the same. My old one had a Fit System (plastic legs) but I would not have needed them because the cabinet was made for my old model. Like I said before, the reviews are not as good with this model as with the French Door Model. Thanks again.

These are the specifications. What is the value of "Y" on page 2 where "Y" is the distance between the front edge of the oven cabinet and the front of the adjacent refrigerator.

wdccruise the measurement from the from of the cabinet to the front edge of the fridge is a little over 4". Both cabinets for the ovens and fridge are 27" deep. Is this going to be okay?

Referring to the the shaded area on the spec sheet, the formula for the required distance, X, between the oven door and an adjacent cabinet door (or in your case, refrigerator door) is Y + 1" where Y = 4" so you'd need 5" to be able to open the left-hand oven door. You clearly don't have that.

How about the GE PTD9000SNSS Profile 30 in. Smart Double Electric Wall Oven instead?

Actually, with the oven installed it would be more like 5" from the front of the oven to the front of the fridge. Do you know what the depth of one of the doors is? My other choice was CT70DP2NS1 but the reviews are not as good as the French Door double ovens. My remodel was a disaster and all I want is appliances that work. My KitchenAid Refrigerator was serviced 14 times before they replaced it. They did a Buy Back on my double ovens because after replacing one of the two circuit boards the smell made me sick so they would not even do a replacement. They bought it back from me. Evidently I was not the first one that this happened to. Also, my cooktop does not work right but I am really tired of this and when I have a chance I will replace that one too.

If the Cafe double wall ovens with the french door doesn't work, I'd go with the Cafe regular door for a cohesive look as they are right next to each other. BTW - they are GREAT looking appliances.

Design Girl, thanks. Like I said I want something that will be problem free.

You cant use that oven. Not enough space. Youll end up with dented fridge doors and racks that cant roll out.

1. What brand and model refrigerator do you have?
2. What is the size of the gap between the refrigerator and the oven cabinet?
3. Confirm that the front of the refrigerator is 4" from the front of the adjacent oven cabinet.

wdccruise

1. KitchenAid KRFF507HWH

2. Gap is 3"

3. No the refrigerator is not 4".

I have decided not to get the French Door Oven and will go with the pull-down door--even though the reviews are not as good as I hoped. I have been without an oven since February and not even sure if I can get this one--with everything that is going on. I want a model that has "Steam Clean" so that limits me to what is avaiable.

I think you will be pleased with the pull down oven. I have heard that if the french doors do not open wide enough you can burn your arms. Wise choice and good luck.

Thanks!!! We might need to build a new house and if we do I will make sure the French Door Oven is not next to anything other appliance. Of course, I am rethinking having my microwave above my cooktop. Maybe I could get a combo microwave and single oven wall unit and get the single French Door wall oven. I can only dream--right LOL

No, you definitely do NOT want steam clean in anything. It’s a big problem. Tried and true is what you want if you don’t want “problems”. Get a plain Jane GE with convection bake. The styling isn’t as pretty, but the reliability is much better. If that’s what you actually value.

live_wire_oak

I want the Steam Clean Feature along with the Self Clean Feature. Are you thinking that I want Steam Cooking? I do not want that I want the Convection cooking in both.

ptreckel

I have tried to get information from the cabinet company but they have not been any help. I never thought I would be in this mess less than a year from remodeling our kitchen. My Refrigerator was serviced 14 times before Whirlpool/KitchenAid decided to replace it. My double ovens were serviced 4 times--replacing one circuit board and to sensors. 2 weeks later the second circuit board replaced. In less than a week it was giving off a bad burning smell and ended up making me sick. They finally said this is a "Health Issue" and did a buy-back. KitchenAid/Whirlpool does not have anything that even comes close to what I had. My cooktop still does not work like it is supposed to. I posted about that and some are saying that ALL smooth cooktops work that way. It should not take 5 minutes to preheat one time and 10 minutes to preheat another time. This is after them replacing the sensors in 2 of the burners.

Steam clean is the problem. It’s a gimmick that causes service calls. Skip it. You don’t need convection bake in both. You only need it one. Unless you bake cakes for a living. Using 2 ovens 4 times a year isn’t even really enough reason to get a double oven if you want to get down to real world needs. Wants are wants. Needs are needs. They aren’t the same. And they lead you to overspend, and end up with problems because of it.

It’s sounding more like you want something pretty with lots of service calls rather than a plug and play.

Steam Clean is because I cannot use the Self Clean Feature and was told that would be an option to help out a little. I do use both ovens a one time and you are right that I don't NEED a lot of these features but I want them to work and with the ovens--NOT MAKE ME SICK!!!!!

It appears that the Cafe CTD70DP2NS1 will fit but you must make sure that the refrigerator is pulled out enough so that the right-hand refrigerator door does not hit the oven's handles when it is opened all the way (i.e., past 90 degrees). The oven handles protrude 3" from the front of the oven. Note that the oven must be hard-wired to the electrical box. It can't be plugged into the existing outlet.

-- amateur

Thanks

I have a nice GE Profile range with that same "steam clean feature". It's somewhere beyond gimmick but nowhere close to a "feature". As in it does very, very little to actually clean, like pretty much nothing.

live_wire_oak can you point me towards an article that discusses the issues with steam clean function? Thank you.

wiscokid

Thanks for your comments. I figured that it is more of a gimmick but I guess I figure something is better than nothing. The service guys have said DO NOT use the Self Clean feature on any oven because it can ruin the electronics boards. They know I won't do that because that smell really makes me sick.

I guess what I was trying to say is that it really is tantamount to nothing, so I wouldn't see it as a dealbreaker or dealmaker....

There are loads of threads here about steam clean features causing error codes and service calls. If you get it, don’t use it. Standard hand cleaning remains the best choice.

I have seen threads about Steam Cooking but not Steam Cleaning feature. Can you tell me where the threads are about the Steam Clean Feature? I do know that the Self Clean Feature causes major problems and can burn up the circuit boards.

You really need the paid advice of a professional Kitchen Designer. Some people don’t value free advice, and need to pay to have someone tell them the same thing. So pay someone to help you. Maybe you’ll listen to them.

Thanks, I am listening and sorry that you think that I am not.