Bread baking school?

4 years ago

I'm 64, and am winding down in my professional career. A avid home chef, I still enjoy learning new techniques and dishes. The real weak spot in my cooking skill set is bread baking. I can make a hella good loaf of Lahey's no need to knead bread, but I really want to up my game to include both day to day loaves, but also artisan breads. My goal in life is to learn to bake a really good baguette. I just renovated my kitchen, which now includes a large island work surface, and a pair of Miele ovens...a convection oven, and a plumbed convection steam oven.

I've plenty of cookbooks, telling me how to bake everything from A to Z, but I've never had anyone show me how to bake a loaf of bread. I dont know the basic techniques. You can read everything you want to about how do do certain things, but until you see someone do it, see the fine points, ask questions as they and then you are doing it...I have a hard time perfecting even the basics.

So I have thought about going to a baking school. I've researched with Google, and have found the King Arthur Flour Company's school, but before I put down my tuition, I wanted to know if there are any other schools out there, with courses about 1-2 weeks long that will be intensive bread baking instructions...Hands on, here's how you do it kind of schools.

Does anyone have knowledge, experience or have gone to any courses like this and have an opinion or recommendation?

I live in Hawaii, so no matter where the school is, I am going to have to travel.....

Thank you all in advance for your thoughts.

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plllog

4 years ago

Going to the school might be a fun vacation, but I would suggest already having some breads under your hands before you do it. From what I'm reading in between the lines, other than a fun vacation project, which the KA school would be, and I'm sure you'd learn stuff, you might be happier with a proper culinary school. There are culinary programs in your state (though perhaps not close to where you live). I don't know if they have pastry specialties, but they might have baking as part of the general program. Have you checked if they have bread baking as a specialty? Or if you can take bread courses without enrolling in the whole program?

Rather than starting with coursework, however, I really suggest asking around and finding out if there's someone who bakes bread who lives near you who'd be willing to bake with you.

Baking bread is really a lot easier than most people believe. A lot of it is experience. Really, go to a food service supply store and buy a fifty pound bag of bread flour and bake your way through it. Be willing to fail. The best bakers have had a "brick" or two show up while they were learning, Use a scale for your ingredients. It's far more accurate than volume. Go through your books and watch some videos. Find recipes by weight with a lot of directions and tips and follow them precisely. Learn how to feel whether a loaf is fully baked by touch and check yourself with a probe thermometer (looking for 195-205°F in general).

By the time you've baked your way through the big bag of flour, you might not need any more help. Or you might decide you need to find a great bread bakery that will let you intern more than a school. Or you'll at least feel confident in your abilities to turn out a decent loaf of bread, and have the attention to pay to nuances and tips while you're taking your course to improve on what you know.

Whatever you decide on, have fun! I learned from my mother. I'm not an expert, but I love baking bread. :)

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Kim G
4 years ago
I suggest you look at the on line classes through Bluprint (formerly Craftsy). I found these classes very helpful in my sour dough and other lean bread techniques. You can email the instructor questions and I have always received timely responses. You can post pics of your results and get critique and suggestions from the instructor. In particular I really like Peter Reinhardt‘s Artisan Bread Making and Jeffrey Hamelman‘s Baker’s Guide to French Bread. I have also gone through Richard Miscovich’s Handmade Sour Dough from Starter to Baked Loaf. There are many other bread making classes available. I have purchased other classes on several other disciplines like Pasta Making, Indian Cooking (want to learn to make naan), and Mexican Cooking (want to learn to make my own tortillas). You can buy the classes or pay a subscription for unlimited access SIgn up for their emails and they often have great deals on their classes. I don’t think I have had to pay over $20 (often much less) for any class. Peter Reinhardt’s technique of using olive oil rather than flour on my bench for stretching and folding sour dough and other lean doughs has been a game changer for me.

I too would love to attend the intensive King Arthur classes - on my bucket list. I do find their step by step blogs and their videos extremely useful that are on their website.

Do you have any bakeries on the island that makes good lean breads? If so perhaps you could pay them for a private lesson?

I too would like to find other hands on resources so hopefully other posters will have some suggestions.

You Miele Combi Steam is an awesome tool for bread making. My breads have gone to a new level using this oven. I hope you have read the Miele combi steam oven owners thread and there is also threads on bread making in a combi steam. I have asked all of the above Chef’s about using a combi steam for oven spring and none of them were familiar with a home version. They did give me some pointers about how long to steam etc. Enjoy!!
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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b
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FWIW, I learned from this book:

I still have the stained paperback I was given as a teenager, and use it often.
lascatx
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That was one of my earliest bread instruction sources too.

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annie1992
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Carol, I have that book too!

I learned from my Grandmother, who baked bread several times a week, and she lived with me when I grew up.

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Most of all, have fun!!!

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lascatx
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go for it. if you don't, you will always wonder why you didn't. If it doesn't end up tripping that latent hidden 'trigger' ... no big whoop. you will find something else.

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