Scary situation: man pulled out a gun
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Comments (20)Wow Glynis, you really are walking a tightrope. Above all, you need to protect your safety. Any actions you take should be made anonymously. But, in my opinion, you should take action. I don't know if you do this already, but when I went on my crusade to oust Pig People, I kept a journel of every incident. Led Zeppelin tribute concert, 2:00 a.m. Mon. Crack deal in street, 8:00 p.m. Sat Escaped inmate pees in front yard 11:00 a.m. Sun. I logged in every time I contacted the police, the landlord, code enforcement, and HUD. I groused to anyone who would listen. In the process, I found out there were many agencies and programs that were available to help me. I was even encouraged to contact the FBI and ATF if I had strong reason to believe there was serious drug activity. In your case, with this deranged 15 year old, I would think a percautionary ringy-dingy to the FBI wouldn't be such a bad idea. I really hesitate advising you to meddle so deaply into this family's affairs, but something has to give. You shouldn't have to live like this. There was one program offered by the city called Street Beat. It was great while it lasted. Basically, it involved an officer coming to a neighborhood meeting and explaining ways you could help them help you. The officers then spent several hours each week walking the neighborhood, talking with folks. It was very effective and reduced loitering and graffiti. Alas, the city had to scrap the program this year due to budget cuts. But do pay a visit to city hall and the police to find out what all of your options are. What you said about your neighborhood being awsome but it was street by street really struck a chord. Ours is exactly the same way. Beautiful old homes and wonderful streets, pockmarked with bits of nasty. The city has made great steps and I have high hopes. Unfortunely, this sub-prime mortgage mess is going to make our efforts more difficult for a while. Two homes on this block have foreclosed. Two rentals sit empty. The market adjustment has stripped nearly all of our equity away. All we can do is sit tight and wait for the rebound. And stay vigilant towards those who would Pig against us. Be strong but be very, very careful GGG. Yours in solidarity, Steven...See MoreOncologists arrest, scary stuff
Comments (57)Thanks for the heads up about the show Maddielee. And thank you too for the kind thoughts. It was weird watching it on tv and seeing people I was familiar with being interviewed. I was horrified when I heard there had been microphones and cameras in the walls. Talk about CREEPY!!! Over all, though vague, the report was pretty accurate, the only thing we saw misreported was the place they gave chemo in. They said the chairs were cramped and there was no where for family to sit, but we never saw that. The lounge they did the infusions in at the sites we went to were really nice, nicer and roomier than others we have been to since then. What surprised me is how much they left out of the report. They probably couldn't prove this but we were told by an attorney that the almost all of the revenue for Crittenton hospital's radiology department was generated by Fata and it's strongly suspected that they were in bed with him. The hospital has since been sold to Accession Health making it harder for patients to sue them. They also left out that the "resident students" Fata had mentoring under him and seeing patients (including us) were from the middle east but were not licensed to practice in the US. That his wife was the Chief Financial Officer of the practice and she claimed she knew nothing, even though thousands of medical records were pulled from his HOUSE. She (nor anyone else) was never charged with anything, she's also fled the country. I wish they would have reported that he became a naturalized citizen in 2009 while he was already stealing from the government and killing people; he lied during his oath to this country. He also used to have the hospital discharge patients from their hospital beds to make them go to his office for chemo treatment and then he'd readmit them afterwards adding thousands to the billing charges. That doctor they interviewed, while I'm really glad he did what he did, I still don't understand how he couldn't have known more as he used to sign off on the blood work they did on patients including my husband before each infusion. How could he review and sign off on blood work, if he didn't see the pt. history? And if he suspected there was a problem earlier why didn't he step up then? I believe that's why he's named in the suits....See MoreIn a shooting situation What would you do?
Comments (34)Just a note to those that will protect their home with a gun. You SHOULD be able to do so I firmly believe that! This story isn't about a home owner tho so I am not sure if thats why it ended the way it did. My DS and a friend were out and about uptown. Drinking. They ran into some other guys with a chip on their shoulder. There were words exchanged. Not a fight. No one was told to leave the bar nor were the police called to settle it, DS thought it was a joking around thing more than actual arguement. DS went back to his apartment at the time where he lived with my nephew, his cousin. He'd fallen asleep on the couch or passed out I am really not sure. But can only imagine. The friend then returned to the apt. My nephew had never left the apt the entire evening but watched tv with a girl. After the bars closed something like 8 guys (the ones that DS and friend had words with plus a few more) came up to the apt. Kicked the door in, ran in and 1 or 2 of them threw DS to the floor, proceeded to kick him everywhere before he was fully awake. His cousin got up to try and and pull them off DS, while the girl ran into the kitchen to hide, two more guys grabbed my nephew and another started punching him, yet another had a baseball bat and when my nephew got away from the two holding his arms, then hit him in the head with the baseball bat! My nephew managed to get away and ran barefoot thru the snow for 5 blocks to his parents house and called 911. the friend grabbed nephews deer rifle, which he did not know if it were loaded or not. It was. He did not point it at anyone, held it in the air and said everyone get out, now! Some ran out but the police were there at that point. Guess what?? Because he held the gun he got into trouble! Big time. What he was charged with right now I cannot remember, terrorizing or something. The kids lied about having a baseball bat, the police did find it and my nephew had a bone fractured in the upper part of his nose/forehead from it. The guys that broke the door and ran in got off with disorderly conduct!! My son was charged with disorderly conduct in a bar! The nephew that hadn't even left the apt all night was charged with disorderly conduct too!!! NEver heard of that law disorderly conduct in a bar before. The 8 guys that charged in didn't pay for any medical bills for either of the 2 boys, nephews were bigger than DS's. Nor did they have to pay for damages done like the entertainment center and tv that were thrown over. They according to the police were going to be charged with breaking and entering, assult on DS, assult with a deadly weapon because of them using the baseball bat on my nephew, ummmm I dunno what all. This was over 5 years ago now. The states attorney is a real doofus. He charged them all with disorderly conduct and didn't ask for any medical bills or damages and then went after DS's friend for picking up the gun. He did it and admitted to it and I am trying to think whatever they charged him with was something like $750/fine. He was found guilty because he didn't try and lie his way out of having the gun. So beware if you ever pick up a gun and think the law is behind you. It may not be! If it was done by either of the apt renters, my son or nehpew I am not sure it would have been done any differently. Like I said our states attny is a doofus and never does what the police reccommend. As a rather long winded answer to Patticos question, I don't shoot guns and therefore couldn't do it. I am not sure if my husband could either....I just don't know and hope I never have to find out....See MoreHow would you have handled this situation?
Comments (47)How would you have handled this situation? is a good question but can be tough to answer. Without being in the situation makes it more difficult to say. Would I physically confront them, slap them in cuffs, lynch them or the like, well no. But I'd *like* to think I would have spoken up then and there in some manner, whether I'd clear my throat, say WHAT THE??? or something. Guess it's a had to be there thing. And really, if for some reason I felt threatened in a store, I think I'd have been leaving the store before the incident anyway. Why would I stay where I don't feel safe? I certainly can shop stores where I feel safe. I don't judge what you did or didn't do with the exception of applauding that you did call later. It may have helped. Good for you. The reality is that there's a good chance that at least one of those jars went home with someone. Hopefully they used it right away since I doubt many people would pay any attention to whether it had a tight seal. I'm generally one here who says let's get the whole story, more facts or something before jumping to conclusions on a lot of things but on this one, I too cut them no slack. Theft is theft. Vandalism is vandalism. And their vandalism could affect other people. Most things in a grocery store are not guaranteed sale items meaning the store buys it and can't return it for credit so any broken jar, stolen jar or opened one that has to be written off is a cost to the store, which means a cost to every customer since those losses are simply passed on. I know these things go on in stores. What people do is often so disgusting. People open up boxes of things, switch them then seal it up and head to the checkouts. I always check the seals on jars and I check boxes and bags. I'll often open the top on a jar with inner seal to see it's intact. I also check that the eggs aren't cracked! And I generally make a wide path around those self-serve bulk bins where people are so often grazing! On a different note, what bugs me more is when people hide behind the lines like "You never know what they'll do" or "They might____". It's code for "I don't want to get involved" and that's why some criminals walk free, some thieves go unpunished, taxes go higher, insurance prices soar and other costs go up. I feel we often have a responsibility to stand up for what's right. If we witness something, do something, watch out for your neighbors' homes. The "everyone for themself" is long obsolete. Cops can't be everywhere. We have to be their eyes and ears. What each person can physically do of course varies. As far as the cameras, so what? Yeah they have cameras but are they really going to be expected to take security personnel, sit them down to watch video and try to find the incident? What are they supposed to do then? Launch a search for them? It's a petty theft so it's not worth the cost for the store to waste the time of doing this. The time to do something is when it's happening. Then all that really would be done is to ask them to leave. And casually telling a cashier on the way out is effectively worthless too. At least take the time to go to customer service. At that rate, even calling them later was a far better option than mentioning it to a cashier on the way out. A cashier is too busy to stop checking people out to go alert Customer Service, which is what they'd need to do and then hopefully they were able to get the info from you accurately, which could be questionable if they're concentrating on cashiering (or other things job or non-job related). Telling a cashier would be fine in a convenience store but not a mega store. It's been a long long time since I've shopped in a Walmart. Do they have any customer service call buttons or phones scattered as do some stores? That could be a possibility. I keep a digital notetaker in a case on my belt at all times. I take notes on it often, record phone calls, conversations etc since my memory is getting challenged more as I age. When I'm driving and remember I need to do something I don't have to fumble for pen and paper to make a note for later. You could have used this to get a description of the people, time, details etc. About 2 weeks ago I was at a target and just getting ready to leave when I saw a woman pull in to a parking space in the next row. It caught my eye because she was *so* far over instead of being centered in the lines. Then I saw the vehicle next to her sort of "shake". Obviously she hit it. She got out of her car and I was by then recording the vehicle description, her description and the 2 digits of the plate that I could see. She got back into her car, backed out and drove off. I decided I couldn't live with myself to let this go so I followed her but all she did was move down 2 rows and park way at the end. I got her full license number, better vehicle description and then debated what to do. Didn't want to wait so I decided to leave a note on the affected vehicle. When I got over there I couldn't see any damage. Where she had to have hit it had the side guards which apparently is what she hit. I even got out and took a close look and there was no damage so I let it go. But I felt good that I did what I did. I look at it this way, if I won't get involved, why should someone get involved if something happens to me? BTW, the lids on many jars have instructions to tell how to check the seal....See More- 7 years ago
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