Here's our favorite old standby for soft, fluffy buns (I can never type the latter without giggling like a schoolgirl).

This is the only recipe I'll ever use and it's on my dusty old blog. This Honey Rolls recipe yields 27 -30 rolls. But can be halved. Or, you could prepare as is, and freeze half of the dough for another time.

For burger buns, I shape dough into buns (more info in the link provided) , place them in the pan (barely touching) then, gently press them down, prior to the last rise.

Sol

Sol, your honey rolls look sooo good. I almost wish I wasn't going into the city (Pittsburgh) tomorrow so I could be home to bake. Lol Only thing pacifying me is remembering I'll be at the strip district. Lol. Thursday I will be making your rolls and enjoying every bite. Thank You.

I'm also awaiting a recipe for bread machine puzza crust. AnnT's crust is a dream of mine but still don't feel confident enough to tackle it.

Jasdip posted a recipe for pizza dough that is super easy and very good. I made it for a party and many times since.

Recently I made a half recipe for buns on the king Arthur flour website and they were really nice.

No recipe for pizza, just per pizza 1 cup flour, a little yeast, salt, a glug of olive oil and enough water.

s.dog, those look incredible!

Thanks Mamapinky, If you try it, I think you'll become a repeat offender.

Sol

Just looked at the Annie's grandmother's white bread recipe, lpink. I wonder if you could make sandwich buns using that recipe?

Or, you could just go to Mancini's, mamapinky0:) JK, solsthumper -- those rolls look delish!

CathyinSWPA

I think my issue is a "forming" issue. How to form the buns so they are not too "poufy." I'd love to make the kaiser type buns . . .

Not sure about pizza. My recipe from the Bread Machine cookbook calls for AP flour. Wondering if I would get chewier results using bread flour . . .

Cathy I think Mancini's in Pittsburgh closed its doors. I have never been there but heard it was yummy. I live in a small dairy farm community..we have a small family owned bakery in town in between the Army Navy resale shop and the Tractor Supply store. I have bought many a loafs and buns there. All homemade no additives. But this requires me doll-ing myself up...you know fix my hair, a little makeup and some decent **going to town clothing** I'd rather stay home with my hair frizzed, no mask and wearing my leggins and one of hubs button up shirts AND enjoy home baked goods. Besides yesterday I had to go to the big city, Pittsburgh for my daughter to meet a new doctor. .I REALLY had to work on myself so today I am completely drained. LOL. LOL.

Im working on my second pot of coffee...expecting energy to kick in so I can make Sol's Honey Rolls. In the meantime I didn't take anything out of the freezer to thaw for dinner so there's that tiny problem also.

Pink use an ice cream scoop.

I have recipe/pic of some salted pretzel rolls I've made, lpink, but additional work with those. Although I made these kaisers using sourdough, I have the granny knot instructions if you'd like. A little overproofed but they worked.

Also have this hoagie roll recipe -- not bread machine, but maybe you can modify?

And because I like to keep things real, I used a random recipe one time and obviously missed a key part LOL!

What Not To Do (although DS thought this was master chef HA!)

sidebar -- Mamapinky0 -- first and foremost, I hope!!!!!! the doctor visit went well, no surprises and things are moving in a positive direction with your daughter -- it can all be so overwhelming. Second, I hope that you're at home in your "favoritest" outfit (aka comfy clothes) and making sol's rolls. Alert possible TMI -- I shared with my husband the other day that the only things I had on that weren't thrifted or a kid castoff were my underwear and shoes :)))))))))!!!! Because that's the way I roll. Last, I'm pretty sure Mancinis on Penn Avenue is still there??? but if not, there are so many other great places in the strip that it's just a great day isn't it?

CathyinSWPA

This is a simple recipe for the bread machine.

• 2 cups warm water (approx. 110 F.)
• 3 teaspoons dry yeast
• 4 tablespoons of granulated sugar
• 1/3 cup vegetable oil
• 6 cups bread flour
• 1 egg white and 2 teaspoons of cold water for an egg wash
• (optional) Poppy seeds

In the bread machine, place 1/2 a cup of water and 1 tablespoon of
sugar. Stir in the yeast. Let mixture stand for a 5 minutes to dissolve
yeast. Then add the rest of the sugar, the vegetable oil and 5 cups of
the flour.

Process on 'dough' cycle.

Dust in the remaining cup of flour as dough forms into a ball and seems
wet enough to receive remaining flour. If necessary, add a few drops of
warm water. When the kneading cycle is done, transfer the ball of dough
to a large greased bowl, flipping the dough one time to grease the top.
Let it rise, covered, for one hour. The dough will more than double in
size. Remove the dough from the bowl and punch it down. Cut it into 16
equal pieces and form each one into a ball. Place the balls on baking
sheets lined with parchment paper and let the balls rise for 30 minutes.

Preheat oven to 400 F. Brush the balls with the egg white / water
mixture and then snip the tops crosswise with a pair of scissors.

Place the trays in the oven and bake for 15 to 20 minutes until the tops start to brown.

Hopefully someone will eventually make the Light Brioche, : )

It went viral a few years ago when in the NYTimes. It makes 8 large buns and I made 12 last time...the size of grocery burger buns.

Not traditional Brioche. One egg for 8 big buns. DH mis-read the recipe and thought it was Tbsp sugar....he cut it down to one tsp. Very forgiving recipe even adding lots of flour to your board for shaping/rolling.

Google image HERE....smittenKitchen, etc...so many give great photo directions.

Yes, that's the problem, my buns tend to be like the "what not to do" photo!

I like the King Arthur Big Beautiful Buns recipe.

Madonna

Cathy, I've never heard of Mancini's either. And we pretty much have everything one could possibly need around here (near M.S.U). Being a carboholic, maybe that's a good thing.

May I add, your buns are delightful! ☺

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I bake most of our breads, but my lack of patience for babying sourdough may possibly get me bitch-slapped by Nancy Silverton.

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Pink, sandwich buns aren't meant to look Instagram-Pretty. That said, any of the recipes above will yield enough dough to practice and vie for the perfect bun.

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Hope all is well with your daughter, Mama.

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Sol

Wanted to let you know I was having one of those days, Sol; you know where you miss every light, bag of flour breaks, phone rings hands in dough, etc. Finally sat down, opened this thread and truly laughed out loud at your post. Yes, go ahead and feel like the magician you are ;) PS We can go to Mancini's and/or do the Strip if you visit the Burgh some time! We can compare our buns with Mancini's ;0

Since mamapinky0 is working on Sol's rolls (in comfy clothes, I hope) I thought I'd give sleevendog's/smitten kitchen brioche rolls a whirl since I was going to make sandwiches for the crew today. Get a 10, and two of the crew have already eaten them plain (in fact, one for breakfast) DS kept saying those smell so good and eventually just had one with his soup yesterday.

If anyone makes this recipe, follow sleevendog's advice and go for 12. I made 8, and my husband eyes lit up as these will probably hold about 1/2 lb of sloppy joe:) HUGE Also, very sticky dough for hand kneading; IDK enough about bread machines, but I think this would be good candidate lpink. Lastly, I screwed up recipe at end and added a straight eggwash (forgot 1 T water) Had a hard time "washing" and bubbles began to appear like a horrible case of acne LOL!

Thanks sleevendog for the rec!

OMG Cathy those look good'er thsn good.

You mean there are still people that hsvent been to the **burgh** Lots of good looking buns in the burgh.

Yes I'm in my comfy cloths but I've been do busy I havent had time to make Sol's honey rolls yet but soon.

By the way had anyone heard from Annie about her daughters surgery?

Well, look at the mahogany glaze on those buns, Cathy.

Mamapinky, Annie's daughter, Ashley, is currently recovering from a 10-hour long surgery.

Annie has been very busy. But I'm sure she will cover the ordeal at length, as soon as she comes up for air.

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Sol

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Sol Thank You.

Yay, Cathy took the challenge. Beauties for your first go at it. (obvious bread experience). Like I said it is a very forgiving recipe.

This blogger, at pic #5, shows a pretty 'cragly' counter full of buns. (is cragly a word?). Shaping challenged. I want to reach in and form them, but they still work out fine for them. Her method, HERE

I roll a bit on a floured surface, then slightly heel-of-palm flatten, Tuck under and place tuck side down for second rise covered with damp cloth.

Making a batch today for burgers.

This blogger uses some whole wheat and honey. HERE

Like I mentioned before, DH used 1 tsp sugar. He doesn't like sweet rolls. This will be our Thanksgiving rolls. Made smaller and touching. Will be great for leftover turkey sliders.

Sleeven the cragly blogger (no not a word, a dating/hookup site, maybe you meant craggy, nevertheless cragly works for me) mentions the dough being quite sticky. Had me wondering if it’ll work in a bread machine or will it make a mess?

I read a few comment sections and they said it works in a bread machine by adding a little extra flour. I think a Tbsp. Good results. Craggy it is! Cragly dating? (ick) lol.

I hope you're still in comfy clothes, mamapinky0! I also hope that your daughter's doctor appt went well!

Love the "mahogany", Sol LOL! I feel kind of "chefish":) Thank you so much also for updating on Annie -- been thinking about her, Ashley, kids and everyone!

The buns are pretty much gone, or spoken-for:) Will post the fake Philadelphia Cheesesteak sloppy joe when I get a chance on the WFD thread.

FOAS -- here are some pictures if it helps you to see. I also took some notes estimating how much added flour.

Initial mix

Hand knead (probably could have gone longer) in bowl to rise

Second rise ~ 45 min (started oven)

Pre-egg wash. Did not do steam stuff in oven.

CathyinSWPA

Cathy yes I'm still in comfy clothes but I did shower and change... into fresh comfy clothes. Lol. My daughters appointment went way better than I thought..new doctor I liked right off the bat...as soon as he said he never heard of Amiees condition and had to research a bit before we arrived..I liked him. He was honest and didn't come off with the God complex so many do. He ask me what I was looking for in a doctor..never have I been ask that... I told him Amiee needs a doc willing to learn about her condition and how it affects her and someone willing to fight the insurance company on Amiees behalf...He said he's a bit scared of this condition..scared in his ignorance he will make a mistake.....I looked at Amiee who was grinning ear to ear and we both knew instinctively this will be a wonderful new member of Amiees team. Amiee spoke up and ask...please will you agree to take me on...I need you. He agreed and than went the extra 10, 000 miles...he invited us all to join him in the hospitals cafeteria to chat. When we left to drive home we felt good. Ok enough of me rambling. Lol

Your dough looks beautiful. You know how one can look at dough and just know if its gonna be good comming out of the oven...well your dough has that look...delicious.

Been trying (and failing) to stay away from this thread! I don’t have anywhere to roll out dough and right now I’d shave my head for a loaf of plain old homemade sandwich bread, and I might not think too hard about trading DH for those buns! All of them! Sol, those honey rolls look amazing! Sleevendog, you know how I feel about yours already (and all those toppings!) : ) Cathy, fan-amazing-tastic job on those buns! Gosh I’d eat that last pic with the sliced bun right now, no burger needed! Lovely photos showing that good surface tension on your dough : ) But I gotta admit, the What Not To Do photo not only made me laugh aloud at first, then I thought to myself, bet that would be featured on a gourmet buns recipe!! Mamapinky, I think you are perfectly capable of ann_t’s pizza dough! I promise it's not hard, just takes a bit of time : )

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Pinkmountain, the Kaiser buns are my favorite burger bun : ) Ann_T's recipe:

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They really stand up to a big juicy burger : )

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…but gotta admit, Hokkaido bread is another favorite of mine : )

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Makes for decadent french toast bread, nice dinner rolls too : )

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That's the straw that broke the camels back. BRB after I find the smelling salts.

mamapinky0 -- I could just hug you! I am so very, very, very, happy that you've found a good fit for your daughter (and you!!!!!!!!) I know that you very well understand what a complete game changer it is to have a doctor who is humble and, most importantly, willing to listen. That is the art! I bet seeing your Amiee's smile filled you with joy!; particularly when I bet you had been girding yourself for battle (that's my favorite phrase). A quick ramble -- 86 year-old dad in hospital, doc comes in, no clipboard, no intern, pulls up a chair and says to my Dad " How are you? Can you tell me what's been going on?" And my dad told him:)! When the doc went into the hall, I went to thank him for his patience, kindness, and respect. I actually could've hugged him (and I've been known to do stuff like that:) and he said he gains so much more relevant information, just by sitting and talking. Will continue to keep you all in my thoughts. And stay in those comfy clothes with your smelling salts in case 2Many posts more!!!!

2Many -- You stinker! Was feeling somewhat content with the sleevendog rolls, now I'm going to seriously consider making some more after seeing your pics! My word, that last pic is SCREAMING for a pat of butter and I can picture how that is pulling apart!!! In all seriousness, these richer doughs ring my bell, so used to the lean stuff. What a great thread!

CathyinSWPA

Now hold on a second! Cathy, you post those gorgeous... what did sleeve say... Mahogany buns, my mouth is watering because I need one, and I'm the stinker?! LOL! I'm lookin' at Ricky's bread, your bread, sleeve's bread, Sol's bread.... I'm dyin' here!!! ...I need some counterspace!

FYI, I took about 10 pull-apart photos of that Hokkaido bread... want me to post them all??? : D

Glad to know someone is getting some buns out of this. I've been sick for 4 weeks and show no signs of it letting up. Persistent cough, not bacterial so nothing I can do until my immune system wakes up.

My goodness, you've all risen to the occasion.

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Laurie, forget about baking; get some rest and feel better soon ☺

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Sol

lpink -- I'm so sorry. I can't begin to imagine how incredibly washed out and exhausted you must feel. I wish we were closer and we'd bring all these rolls over, plus chicken soup and (insert whatever you want!) to help you feel better. Silly ? but would a pulmonologist be something to consider? I hope you feel better soon -- baking can wait like sol said. I'll be thinking about you.

And you're still the stinker, 2Many! HA! Actually, you get some more gold stars for resisting the "pull" to inhale that Hokkaido bread during your photo shoot (takes cue from Sol, yuk, yuk:)

CathyinSWPA

I don't know why I opened this thread since it's torture to be gluten free and never eat these lovely creations. But I think I wanted to know more about Laurie's wedding-which I think is coming up. I'm hoping that you're feeling better soon! If all else fails, hire someone or use store bought. No one will know what they are missing. They're all there for the occasion!

Mama- I hope your daughter gets some answers from the Doc in Pittsburgh. Is he with the UPMC? My aunt and cousin live in the 'Burgh and are patients at Magee. I was just in town in mid June. Our friends live in Greensburg, so we visited there too-- the night rain caused that big landslide in another part of town. What a storm!

Note to Mama and Cathy-- if you haven't eaten at Burgatory, give it a try! The burgers were delicious and the menu is such fun!

Hoping to hear more from Annie too, but last I heard, Ashley was slowly recovering.

Sol, always a pleasure to read your wit and your delicious recipes. I still remember salivating over Thumper's Dirt Bombs. That was a long time ago!

"They're all there for the occasion!" So true, Compumom!

And while DH and I have not been to Burgatory, everyone else in the fam has and they would concur with your review! They've just opened in Cranberry too.

I'm sorry to hear your relatives are patients at Magee. A great hospital. I'm hoping their recoveries will be in the near future!

CathyinSWPA

PS Kind of intrigued about the Dirt Bombs, Sol:))))))!

Yes, I have been nagged now by my family to seek out a specialist. But I dunno . . . I have been to MANY doctors and I do listen to their advice. I am not the only person suffering from long lasting persistent coughs. They prescribe all kinds of thing for them, like steroid inhalers, etc. but they don't help, just treat the symptoms and in my case not very well, and make me feel worse than the cough. In the end, my immune system kicks it out and it stops. But they usually last six weeks or more. I've had this three times in the past year.

Pink have you had a chest CT scan in the past year?

Pardon the continued diversion, but lpink, at least have you had a WELL REVIEWED chest X-Ray. I developed a Very minor nagging cough three years ago and after a year of it, went for an X-Ray that seemed OK. But the cough mostly continued off and on and a year later got worse. I went back to my clinic and saw my Dr.'s associate who said I needed another X-Ray because there was a note on the first X-ray indicating a possible lung issue. Oops. Well, they did another one and then sent me for the CT scan like mamapinky was suggesting. Unfortunately, it indicated an auto-immune lung disease. It would have been better if I had been treating it a year earlier.

Obviously, there are all sorts of minor coughs, but better safer than sorrier.

"In the end, my immune system kicks it out and it stops. But they usually last six weeks or more." You know how your system works, lpink. I'm just so sorry -- probably the mere smallest things seem daunting! And can we just say that sometimes dealing with the medical community adds a huge additional layer of stress and exhaustion, particularly when you're sick? You just want to lay on the floor, fetal and say fix me. And when you do find someone who a) listens b) understands and C) IS EMPATHETIC you want to just weep with joy.

Maybe once you feel better, consider seeing a specialist so you have a resource if this happens again, get some testing, etc.? It's hard.

Just a sidebar -- watched my dad struggle with chronic coughing, wheezing, etc. this past winter. I wanted to cry to watch him battle. not kidding. Inhalers are useless, nebulizers only way to go (says a mom of asthma kids) After seeing PCP for several weeks was sent to pulmonologist. He added something to his breathing treatments/albuterol and FINALLY the cough abated. And get this, pulomonologist said "you call and we'll get you in. I'll either see you or my PA, who I talk with every day. And I'll be around for a while, cause I have kids in college around here. Just call." I could have hugged him.

Keep us posted -- lots of people care, lpink.

chas045 -- sorry to hear your diagnosis wasn't as timely as it should've been -- pretty big oops. So glad that is was caught.

CathyinSWPA

I got treated with albuterol at the dr's office and was given a steroid inhaler for at home. The inhaler was useless, the albuterol helped slightly at the time of treatment.

Ipink I think inhaled steroids have to be used daily for X amount of time before you notice the benefits. Inhaled steroids are not for rescue.

Cathy did you say you have a kiddo with asthma? My 9 year old has asthma and after all these years have yet to be able to control it but his main triggers are activity and stress.. Go Figure.

OT still... I was caregiver to my Mom who passed away from lung cancer after battling for 2+ years. She used a variety of inhalants, Albuterol being one. Simbicort, Advair, Fluticasone, and she also had a nebulizer. Her initial dx was COPD. I wish I could remember which one seemed most effective, but since her condition was not the same as yours, I doubt I'd be helpful. When you go back pink, you should tell your Dr. the albuterol seemed more beneficial (unless you've already done so and I somehow missed it in posts). Clearly, as chaso45 says, and knows, better safe than sorry on Xrays, MRI's and any other tests. Pinkmountain, I hope you find relief and good treatment.

Continuing OT, I got to the point myself that I didn't care if a physician was empathetic or not, just wanted them to be intelligent, knowledgeable, and persistent... and to listen, not rush-rush you. But yes, it helps to have a kind doctor if they've all the latter : )

I should be posting my crappy dinner on the WFD thread, but more important stuff going on here.

"The inhaler was useless, the albuterol helped slightly at the time of treatment." Yep, lpink. I've found that with my Dad and my son. Both have nebulizers now (saga with my Dad) With this last go round with my Dad, he was on different courses of antibiotics/prednisone and albuterol breathing treatments over about 8 weeks still (coughing, coughing, coughing). Finally sent to a pulmonologist who added budesonide 2x a day to breathing treatments. Also breathing exercises (pickle, etc.) and changed his antibiotic to azythromycin because he had pneumonia. This is just some add'l info for you -- you know you and hopefully your immune system is going to kick butt here soon:) That's what I'm hoping. I'm sure you're exhausted both physically AND mentally!

mamapinky0 -- wow! That's tough! Let's see ... activity and stress in a nine-year old? Um, yep. My goodness. I'm sure you've had your work cut out for you helping this little one recognize symptoms, triggers, etc. plus missing school, activities too, plus just being 9:) DS (25 now) came home from first grade basically coughing every 30 seconds (teacher kept sending him for water) Ended up in ER doing either 3 - 5 back-to-back breathing treatments, kid's eyes were all pupil. Went to Rite-Aid to get albuterol/meds. He was literally running laps up and down the aisles with my daughter trying to watch him. As the clerk told me it would be 30 minutes, I reached across, held her arm as he flew by and said "We don't have 30 minutes." DS always had trouble in fall but has been better in recent years, if that's any consolation.

Agreed, 2Many! with your description of good doc! I don't want to get started (I mean look how long I've gone on) but I've said I gird myself for battle. I've actually watched a gastro back up out of the room while we were still asking questions -- sigh. I followed:) Wanted to add how difficult those years of caretaking must have been for you too, on so many levels. I'm glad that you were able to be with her.

lpink -- I hope your next post says you're feeling better!

CathyinSWPA

I get the these chronic coughs every so often. Two times in 2013 and then clear for four years. Now, 3 times in past nine months. Here is a list of things I have tried: various antibiotics, guaifenesin, dextromethorphan, fluxotine, lortadine, hizmanal, advair, tessalon . . . high doses of vit. C and other vitamins, lysine, elderberry syrup, ivy syrup, olive leaf and tumeric pills in high doses and some other Indian herb I can't remember, zinc tablets, echinacea . . . and drinking a glass of water every hour for fluids. And chicken soup. And resting as much as possible. The only thing that helps is the codeine cough syrup and I only take that when it gets really bad at night. Oh and I should buy stock in Ricola.

Edited to add . . . not all at once!

Well, Laurie, if N.Y. penicillin didn't lay down the law, nothing will.

On a serious note, it sounds like you've done all the right things.

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Some time ago, husbandman became afflicted with a similar, persistent cough. He refused to see a doctor because "I'm not going in over a little cough."

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At any rate, the mysterious cough lasted almost a year. Then one day, to his relief and mine, the cough simply stopped, as quickly as it had started.

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In other words, I am perplexed.

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However, regarding your dilemma, one thing came to mind, mold.

Yes, mold may be all around us, but some people can become very sensitive to mold spores, developing allergies to certain types of mold.

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If your doctor hasn't brought up the subject, ask him/her about the possibility of mold being the culprit. I hope you'll get the help you need.

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Hey there, Ellen, I've missed seeing you here! ♥♥♥

And yes, I am an acquired taste☺

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Sol

Aw, lpink. From your long list, it's evident you've waged quite a battle. I start to think airborne allergies, then Sol brings up a good point with mold, further testing possibilities, and then this kind of caught my eye "the albuterol helped slightly at the time of treatment." I wish there was a doc that would hit the bullseye on the dartboard for you. So tiring!

Hoping that this one has run its course. Will continue to think about you!
CathyinSWPA

The buns were just for at home not the wedding. I had my first brioche bun this weekend at a restaurant. Might be worth a try some time. My problem is I only do bread in the bread machine and mine is small, topping off at 1.5 lbs. of dough. That's plenty for just my family of three.