Organic Method for Killing Grass and Weeds
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Comments (22)I didn't try to change your words or significantly twist what you had to say, and I don't see why you felt the need to do that to my post. I'm not at all clear on how I am twisting your words. It was not clear that you were suggesting glyphosate/RoundUp in place of the Spectracide....sorry if I mistook your intent, but I assumed we were all taking about the OP's product. That WAS the question, afterall..... Apparently, you didn't even really read what I wrote, because, if you did, you are intentionally trying to confuse the nature of what I wrote to support your position. Oh, I read it! And you very clearly stated that the stuff is "100% safe" and "is not known to translocate between different kinds of plants". I merely pointed out that this position is not supported by a significant amount of scientific evidence. And in refutation you said you have seen no "credible" evidence to support this and "famous people in the know" say it can't/doesn't happen. But you gave no cites to support this statement, whereas I provided several to support mine. How "famous" the authors of these articles are, I have no idea, but they are qualified and trained scientists and they do support and document their theses with various other, equally well-qualified sources. What I wrote wasn't just my opinion. It's the conclusions drawn by many (the vast majority, that I've run into) professionals and educators that study herbicides. But you neglected to provide ANY cites or documentation to support that it was anything more than just your opinion. And what exactly constitutes the 'vast majority'? Five? Twenty-five? Fifty? You provided none. What's more, you clearly stated that in your "opinion most of the material is not relevant to this situation". Yet you don't bother providing anything other than your 'opinion' to support this statement nor do you give us any reason why your 'opinion' should necessarily be held in greater value than those scientists whose work I reported. Maybe you have some detailed scientific background that we are not aware of? BTW, the emoticons that you, specifically, seem to always use to "disguise" obnoxious and rude comments, don't really do the job. For me, they kinda did at first, but the pattern in which they repeatedly show up in many of your posts (after rude comment, after rude comment, after rude comment), has made their real meaning evident and even seem to amplify and call attention to the cheap shots. I was attempting to keep the tone rather light. Apparently I failed. I am well aware of your propensity to refute or argue against everything I say and was trying quite hard not to become unnecessarily adversarial. As to cheap shots and rude comments, you dish out your share, fella! I'd offer the above as ample evidence. It is almost as though you cannot tolerate someone else offering another differing, yet perhaps just as valid, viewpoint. And if I were a little less secure of my experience and knowledge base, I might even go so far as to say that the possibility of a mere female having the temerity to question your apparently sacrosanct opinions/viewpoints pisses the heck out of you. Been there, done that......doesn't bother me a bit. But all of this is really immaterial to the OP's initial question and not furthering the discussion in any positive way. I've said everything I need to say and I stand by it, so if you feel you need to run me down any further, have at it....See MoreDrought helping me kill weeds and Bermuda grass
Comments (18)It seems that there are many recommendations for eradication. The one that worked for me, and allows me to plant immediately - dig it up, filter the stolens out, and plant. Bermuda can grow deep, survive drought and neglect. I overhauled a very large front yard with a simple tool - a square shovel (called an Irish shovel, don't know why)after enough rain to soften the soil. My lot is impenetrable ancient marine terrace of silt, clay and sand. It's fairly easy to sift the stolens from the dirt via a wire mesh on a frame that fits a wheel barrow, or you can simply throw out the grass layer. Yes, you can do solarization, you can do round-up, you can do rototilling for however long it takes... but imho the prep is everything. Fighting resprouting grass is miserable, neverending work. Spend the time up front sifting the bermuda grass out and spend zero weeding time fighting it later. My neighbor did not bother to remove the bermuda, and it comes back every year, even with mulch. Many of the previous posts are spot on - rototilling will not eliminate bermuda. The comment of 'tilling destroys the soil structure' is highly subjective to the type of soil. If I had not completely turned and amended my garden then nothing would grow. It would be helpful if you posted your soil type or did a 'jar test' so that others can make recommendations. Hope this helps ... diana...See MoreOrganic after Ortho weed kill...
Comments (13)In the thin areas, there's barely any soil at all-- just compacted ground leftover after construction (the house is 2 years old). I could pound a spike in 6 inches (it's not concrete) but it's nothing I would consider soil or fertile. I definitely consider that soil. If it is not rock or rocks, then it is soil and can be reclaimed. My soil is pulverized limestone. It is white when all the organic material is stripped out, but it works great for us. Do this: 1. scatter some sort of organic fertilizer on the thin areas. Anything includes dog food, corn meal, wheat flour, soy bean meal, alfalfa pellets, coffee grounds, etc. Apply as heavily as you want but at least 10 pounds per 1,000 square feet. 2. Run a black soaker hose around in the thin areas. Turn the faucet on to a trickle and leave it running day and night for a week. This will give the soil a very slow soak. What you are doing with the slow soak is establishing an environment in the soil where the beneficial fungi like to grow. Once these things get started, they can grow several inches in a week. It is these fungi that give you the soil you want. You can't flood the area and hope it will work, because these fungi need air to live. So trickle-soak the area for a week and move the soaker hose to another spot for a week. Continue until you are happy with the areas you've soaked. Then repeat the process starting back at the beginning. When you have finished for the second time, repeat for a third time. At the end of the third time your soil in that area should be exactly like a sponge. Recall that a sponge is very soft when wet and very hard when dry. That's what you're after. When you walk on the recently watered ground, it should be very soft under foot. After a week it should be very hard, but it should absorb water quickly and soften when you water it again. And for all y'all weed b gone users, I don't know what to do with y'all. Please try spraying ONLY the foliage of your weeds with household vinegar (full strength). Spray on the hottest part of a hot sunny day. Be sure to protect the surrounding plants and grass from overspray. If, for some reason, that doesn't work, look for some 20% acidity vinegar. That stuff is the most dangerous thing in the organic arsenal but it makes very quick work of most weeds. My oxalis turns black in 20 minutes and is dried up and crispy in an hour. If you find the strong vinegar, please come back here and ask how to use it. It is definitely NOT for use around children, but the hazard is very temporary....See MoreKill Crab grass -- Drastic method
Comments (1)Obviously you are an "organic" person! Re-sod the area ASAP and maintain proper management and no further crabgrass should occur in healthy, thick turf. If there are crabgrass seeds under the new sod they won't come through....See Moredchall_san_antonio
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