How high do you turn the heat for steak on grill and broiler?
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Comments (21)amck, I'm going to go a little out on a limb and say "yes, for what you need it's worth a try" with a couple of caveats below in 2nd paragraph. It looks particularly good for toasting a whole bunch of English muffins up at once. Another nice thing about it is that it doesn't really take up that much more space than a normal toaster oven and is only 11" deep. I had followed the previous post and was interested to learn that there are now probably better choices out there than my old Black and Decker (so I'm probably looking too). The key is whether this chef's unit really performs as it claims to. I'm a little bit concerned about it browning two levels evenly on both sides. I'm also a little uneasy about it being "open faced" and having no door (if I read the link correctly) - you sure wouldn't want to accidentally stick your hand in there. Perhaps it's something that would be better off being a little higher up and out of reach of younger guests if you have any. It sure would be helpful to see some reviews of it. I'm really interested how this turns out - keep us posted. Here's the link again (hopefully the correct one) for anyone else who's following: Here is a link that might be useful: Chef's Salamander Broiler link...See MoreWolf or Capital Broiler and Grill?
Comments (28)Gary I think I once had an electric "stove" with a burner like that "sealed electric burner" for awhile. Agree that induction can provide a great range of heat and generally even heat unless there is an issue with the pan. For gas though, there seem to be features attributed to "open" in the open/sealed debate that are really due to other factors. There are several components of cooking that can contribute to a cooking surface that applies heat evenly to your food. You could look at the configuration of the burner ports. Open, sealed or semi open as in the old Wolf burner, there are attempts to make a better pattern of distribution by increasing the number of ports and spreading them out in concentric ports and putting them in a star shape. The most advantage would be for a pan that does not conduct heat well, like cast iron or a very thin pan. They must be sized to the burner though, as you size a pan to an electric burner. The second aspect is considering the size of the pan in relation to the heat pattern of the burner. Once you have a pan, like cast iron, that is bigger than the burner,even though the heat is distributed evenly over a 6 inch circle, you have a hot spot in the middle of the pan. I use 14 inch pans quite a bit and so with my 14 inch CI pan I am better off with a larger ring of heat that would cut the total area of the pan roughly in half unless I could find a star burner 12 inches wide. The flip side is a burner that is too wide for the pan. You then have the heat going either to the very outside or completely around the pan. An open burner on the highest setting will produce a flare but the extent to which this happens depends on how the burner is engineered. Here is a picture of the 30 inch Wolf cooktop compared to 30 inch BS and even when you consider the flare really only on the highest burner setting, the burner is much smaller to begin with so might accommodate a smaller pan easier than the BS. People on this forum tend to focus on the heat source because it is an appliance forum not a cooking forum. To get the most even heat in many more situations, don't worry about the burner but the interface of the food to the burner--the pan. Use a good heavy copper pan and not only will heat be even across the bottom but even up the sides as well. Heat will be coming evenly from all directions. If you can't swing copper use heavy aluminum. Last week, I did use a commercial range with star burners, (with almost no void of burner ports in the middle) with a cast iron pan. It was well sized to the burner so heated well. It had a very poor low end of heat but I'm sure I could work around that if I had to. I have cooked on other commercial ranges as well. I still do like my sealed burners for home due to the great control of the flame especially the low end. I can certainly see people making other choices though. I am currently using my range but due to the issues with the "blue chips" I will at some point replace it. I may have to reconfigure my kitchen to accommodate a rangetop and I am not sure what that will be. Maybe I will get a CVAP for the oven. They are supposed to be coming out with a residential version....See MoreGrilling without grill or grill pan (or broiler)
Comments (12)Here's the recipe, it's a Weight Watcher's one: Mococcan Chicken Thighs 4 4 oz. skinned, boned chicken thighs (mine have bones, I'll take off most of the skin) 1 1/2 tsp. ground cumin 2 tsp. lemon rind 1/2 tsp. ginger 1/2 tsp. salt 1/4 tsp. ground cinnamon 2 garlic cloves, minced 2 tsp. olive oil Trim fat from chicken thighs, set aside. Combine spices in a large bowl. Brush oil evenly over chicken. Add chicken to bowl, and toss well to coat chicken with spice mixture. Let stand 10 min. Prepare the grill. Place chicken on grill rack coated with cooking spray. Cover and grill 6 minutes on each side or until chicken is done. Serve with pita bread, if desired. Note: to prepare indoors, place a grill pan over medium-high heat: coat with cooking spray. Add chicken and cook 7 minutes on each side or until done. There's a park up the road from me where I could go and try this out grilling, or I could buy a little hibachi or a grill pan. But I don't grill, I'm going to have to sell my house pretty soon and I don't want to get more stuff to move with, and money is at a premium, so I don't really want to use a bunch of charcoal for just 4 pieces of chicken. My broiler gave out on my oven, but I think it is the pulsing that screws things up because it seems to still heat up OK, so I'm thinking I could use my broiler pan and just turn the oven up high and cook the meat close to the heating element for a similar effect to broiling. Or I guess I could sear the meat first in a frying pan and then bake. I didn't realize that just heating a pan on high on top of the stove would wreck it but now that you mention it, I guess it would....See MorePick Steak For Grilling
Comments (36)I know the LC pieces I have warn against heating past medium. I've pushed the envelope a bit occassionally, but I'd be hesitant to heat it "screaming hot." Lodge or other CI is cheap, LC is not. I'd not risk it. I like to sear in a skillet, too, One thing I've found is that this method is not ideal if there's a bone involved because the meat quickly shrinks enough to create a small airspace next to the bone. Wonder if others have had this problem. I also tend to like my strip side slightly more done than the tenderloin side, so that presents issues of its own. So I rarely buy Porterhouse, but I'll be happy to order it at a steak house that knows what they're doing better than I do. :) John - Glad your meal worked out. My guess is your "pretty ok" is "pretty excellent" by most people's standards. Interesting about your eel concoction. MC@H mentions using fish sauce to mimic some of the nuances of aged steak, but I don't recall if they marinate it for a while, or how long. Unfortunately I can't locate that cookbook (or much of anything cooking related) to look it up, as my kitchen is still not back together....See More- 8 years ago
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