Kitchen Layout help 10x11
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cpartist
6 years ago
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sena01
6 years agoI suggest a void corner or have a cab on wheels next to it so you can keep seldom used items in the corner. This is from deedles' kitchen.
You can have a 27 or 24" wide drawers on the dining table side then DW and the sink not centered under the window (you can center the faucet). On the other side of the sink, I think you can fit 15" trash or drawers and then the corner void or as above picture.
After the corner you'll need at least 3" filler, then the range and I guess you can fit 18" wide drawers b/w the range and the fridge.
I'd consider 42" wide aisle b/w the sink counter and the island and 44-45" b/w the fridge and the island, aisles measured from counter edge to counter edge/appliance handle, not from cabinet to cabinet.
kenstl
6 years agosena01
6 years agokenstl
6 years ago
Ok, above is our kitchen area. The main kitchen area is 10' x 11' in the upper left corner, the remaining space to the right is where we have our kitchen table, doorway to the dining room, etc.
We are a family of 4, a 9 and 10 year old. We have an atrium ranch home that is 1800 sf on the main floor, so if we are not downstairs (our living room, tv etc), then we are usually hanging out in our main area upstairs which is in the kitchen area. We like to cook and entertain, we use our outdoor deck a lot which is through the side door. We do have a pantry area off of the kitchen, it is made up of 24" base cabinets and wall cabinets with a counter. It doesn't hold a ton of items, but we do store all of our can goods, cereals, breads, baking items, spices etc, toaster oven, in this area.
Things that can't change:
1. Sink area / plumbing has to stay where it is located.
2. We are not planning on moving any windows or doors
Wants / Needs / specs:
1. We want to have an island, even better if we can do 2-3 stools at a sitting area on one end
2. In the table area, we have always had a large 7' long table and at the North wall, a hutch. Would it make sense to put lower cabinets on the North wall, or even move the refrigerator on to that wall to open up space on the other portion of the kitchen?
3. would like to have a range hood vs the microwave over the stove if we have room. we are concerned it may look too crowded with the refrigerator next to it.
4. Open to less upper cabinets, definitely want drawers on the majority of our lower cabinets.
5. Must have a two can trash bin
Open to all ideas. Hopefully the actual photos and the layout will assist, I look forward to hearing your ideas.kenstl
6 years agoWe moved our refrigerator over to the 8'4" wall opposite of the windows where our kitchen table is located, to see how it feels. I think this idea is growing on us. I attached a picture of what that area may look like. It does a couple of things for us. It expands the kitchen to make if feel much larger, and it gets rid of the clutter of having the stove and refrigerator crammed together thus giving us some additional counter space near the stove. We would probably then move the stove to the left to center it on the wall if we decide to do a range hood.
The downside is that the refrigerator expands the triangle quite a bit and I have no ideal how I am going to get a waterline to the refrigerator.
kenstl
6 years agoWe decided to take our island apart and move it to where we are considering the "new" island to be located. We plan on rotating the island, drawers to sink side, have a counter overhang for 2-3 stools. If we go with this layout, we would keep the fridge moved and center the stove on the side exterior wall. What do you think?
It gives us a lot more room between the island and the wall cabinets. the glass table is just for a prop, fyi
sheloveslayouts
6 years agoCan you draw more detail in the red area--the laundry room/hall/dining room? Is the front of the house at the bottom of this drawing? I don't know what an atrium ranch is.
In the first kitchen we renovated, I ignored the NKBA recommendation to have no leg of the "work triangle" more than 9 feet. I think there was about 10.5' between fridge and sink and I ended up really disliking that compromise. I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no other choice.
herbflavor
6 years agokenstl
6 years agosheloveslayouts
6 years agoOkay. So two ideas I explored were 1) turn the dining area bump out into a window seat with storage for rarely used and extra kitchen things 2) moving the side door through the laundry room, basically moving your present pantry space to a tall cabinet next to the fridge...
herbflavor
6 years agosheloveslayouts
6 years agoherb-are you talking about my question about moving the side door? If it's feasible, I'd choose losing the full lite door over putting the fridge in the dining area. Widening the the window over the kitchen sink is a good suggestion, though.
The space for an island is near square, so here it is rotated in my drawing. You're right, it would be a more comfortable orientation...
sheloveslayouts
6 years agoIf you're open to widening the kitchen window or if you don't care if the sink is centered on that window, I think this is a worthwhile layout to consider. Also, with table seating so close I'd probably eliminate the counter seating to gain five linear feet of 24" base cabinets for storage. This drawing shows a 30" sink centered on a 60" window...
kenstl
6 years agokenstl
6 years agokenstl
6 years ago
This is the layout we are going with on the main corner of the kitchen! This site is great as I found this picture after we had decided to move the stove over and dead end the wall cabinets in the corner vs a corner cabinet. Seeing the same plan sealed the deal.
kenstl
6 years agobenjesbride and sena01, thank you for your visual layouts you put together, they helped out immensely in finalizing a layout. After playing with some details over the past couple of months while we completed the other updates to our home, I think we are finally settled in on a layout. If either of you have time, I would love to get your feedback on the layout and see the changes on your 3d layout. Thanks again!
sena01
6 years agokenstl
6 years agothe two 9" cabinets on each side of the range are going to house a spice rack / oils etc, and a similar cabinet a pictured to hold all of our utensils, so I would really hate to get rid of those.
the distance b/w the edge of the island and the edge of the fridge will be just over 38". It is the narrowest walk way area. We have been able to expand from our prior layout, the space between the island and the counters on each of the two other sides, from 36" up to 41" by moving and reshaping the island.
sena01