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- 9 years agoBumblebeez SC Zone 7 thanked dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
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Need a not-too-large upright freezer for the basement
Comments (4)GE makes several upright fridges in the 15 cubic foot range, which is the minimum size I'd consider actually useful. BTW, if you're at all considering using the fridge for long term food storage, the manual defrost is the way to go. Frost free sucks too much moisture out of the foods and you have higher incidences of freezer burn with it. If this is only for short use overflow as you described, then keep it full of milk jugs full of frozen water, and only remove enough of the jugs to squeeze in what you need to fit in. Full freezers maintain more stable internal temperatures and expend less energy overall than do lightly loaded freezers....See MoreNew freezer -- Energy Star vs. manual defrost?
Comments (7)Sorry to hear about the the fridge and wish you luck with the replacement. Does North Carolina have a lemon law for appliances? If not, then, hopefully, the E-Lux warranty will get you replacement. In case you go back to considering an upright freezer, I can give you my experience on electrical cost increase from going from a s small chest freezer to a larger self-defrosting upright. I replaced a 5 cu. ft. Whirlpool manual-defrost chest freezer with a 14 cu. ft. Frigidaire FFU14 upright (very similar to the Lowe's version you are considering). With a Kill-a-Watt meter, I figured out that my old chest freezer used around 270 kWh per year while the new upright has been using about 440 kWh. I figure the net extra cost per year for me has run a little under $20 per year. So, not much extra utility cost. Of course, power consumption is partly a function of how full the freezer is and where you keep it. Mine is in the basement which holds a pretty steady at around 60F over the year. Placed the freezer in a garage that is hot for five or six months of the year, and keep it only half full, your cost could be a few dollars higher. One thing about my FFU14 is that it's compressor and fans run frequently and make a fair amount of fan and motor noise. THe Energy Star implementation is abasically to use smaller fans and motors which use less power even though they run more frequently. Trouble is, those smaller components can be annoyingly noisy, at least on the Frigidaire version that I have. This probably will not be a problem with the freezer out in the garage in your case, but it is a problem for me with the freezer in my basement. Chest freezers are a good deal quieter,...See Morelong term storage in upright freezers
Comments (3)A lot of it depends on the technology involved. Because of the geometry, a chest freezer is the best for long term. Next best is an upright manual defrost freezer with freezer coil shelves (if you can even get one anymore that isn't a lab freezer). That's where each or most of the shelves have freezer coils either inside or underneath the shelves. Next after that is a manual defrost with ordinary shelves, and last is a self-defrosting. BUT, the higher end no-frost freezers use different technology than the self defrost freezers. They use an evaporator to remove moisture from the box before it has a chance to form frost, rather than heating it to get rid of the frost. I don't understand how these work, but the heating doesn't happen in the freezer box so your food doesn't melt and refreeze. I've only been using my new freezer with evaporator for about 8 months, and I'm using it for daily use, including ice, so don't know how it would do for truly long term. It's very fancy (Miele) and has things like a super-freeze setting so that if you're going to be freezing a lot of things from room temperature you can cool it down first so that what you already have frozen doesn't warm up too much from the "heat" in the new things. I've used it a few times, and I'm not sure superfreezing and raising things back to 0 is all that good for them, though it's an interesting concept. So far so good. It's at least no worse than my old GE coil shelves upright (which I have in the garage now for true long storage)....See MoreSelf-Defrosting or Not
Comments (8)Manual it will be. I agree, Dave, that automatic just seems like it would wear out faster due to bouncing back and forth during the defrost cycle. The more an electrical gadget has on it, the more it has to go wrong. Annie, the defrosting and refreezing of the freezer part of the side by side has always bothered me. There's nothing I can do about it except not put anything in it that I feel that would hurt too much. I'm sure over a long time of storage, it would definitely break down the quality of the food in there. Morz8, yes, I've already started my seeds for broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts and will be starting more tonight. I plan to have a large garden this year. Most will be canned, but a lot are not suitable for canning plus I want to make sure I have room for meats and fish in the freezer. Even though there is only one in this family now, I plan to make sure I can put up as much as I'll want and need for as much of the next year as possible. My freezer is also off in a little cubby behind my back mud room and against an outside wall. We had originally planned to put a door to a garage there, but we never built the garage and the diminsions were perfect for the upright. It is cooler there and we never had to defrost it more than twice a year and, like you, had the defrosting down to about the same length of time. One thing DH did was attach the hose from the bottom of the freezer to a pipe that delivered it to another pipe going out so no messing with shallow pans of freezing water which I had to do for too many years. I'm doing well. I think the fact that Darrell was so ill for so long and in so much pain and now he's at peace and no longer in pain has helped me accept it more. There was also so much support from friends, both in person and on the net, that helped. During the four days before Darrell passed, the last of the transplant patients that we were with at the same time as the transplants were performed, passed away and my very close friend in Florida unexpectedly lost the love of her life. The friend in Florida and I shared a lot of support for each other. Everyone here on Gardenweb helped a lot. They are my Gardenweb family and I feel like I've known all of you forever. Thank you. Madonna...See More- 9 years ago
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