New J&P roses look nothing like their pictures, what is going on?
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Comments (4)In this case they did supply the name that is already selected for the Sedona rose. This is the first time they have ever done this that I know of. J&P does tell you what color each rose is supposed to be so you know what to expect from that standpoint. This year they are Yellow/Gold, Red, Lavender, Orange/Red (Sedona). John...See Moreheirloom roses v chamblees v j&p
Comments (25)I really want to thank everyone for all their input! I wish I had been able to check earlier but bronchitis and asthma had me sidelined for awhile. The two I ordered that are a little iffy for my climate are heirloom and hot cocoa - the two non-Austins I got from heirloom roses. I do have some very busy baby bunnies in my backyard. I bought my daughter a chocolate vine for her "chocolate garden" semi-worried it might become invasive and the bunnies have nibbled it down to almost nothing. I sprinkled garlic around it and they haven't touched it since then (but it's been a whole two days - they might get hungry enough to brave the garlic still, but I did the same thing in my veggie garden and they haven't touched the lettuce or spinach). They're really almost too small for a fence to work. they just leap through the neighbors fence at high speed like it's not even there. If I found a small enough chicken wire that might work to slow them down a little bit though. I'm thinking my dogs and friendly neighborhood hawk probably slow them down the most. The bunnies are under the neighbor's shed (yes they are fun to watch, but not eating my plants - there's plenty of dandelions to go around) and I've noticed they're not crossing my backyard, but staying as much in the bushes and as close to "home" as possible. So since the austins are going in the new "sunrise" garden which is way across my yard, past the the lab, past the ameircan eskimo, past the hawk, past the owls...those might be relatively rabbit safe and safe for the zone so I'll try putting those in the ground (and watching for bunny damage daily) and potting the heirloom and hot cocoa (just because they're borderline for the zone and will eventually end up in a more "bunny friendly" area when planted permanently). Any recommendations on whether I should overwinter them in the garage or back porch and let them go dormant or try to bring them in the house for the winter? Which have you had the most success with?...See MoreJ&P Sale roses - shipping March 2008???
Comments (14)My dad loves the idea, teka2rjleffel [he's a turnaround consultant]... sell lots of product and use a year's worth of sales to come up with some actual inventory ;] Ah but if I knew I was reserving them for this price I would have this time. Brandy, good gripe! I enjoyed it :) Buford, you know I didn't look, it's true. Hey, it must've been small print - I swear it said just 1st ship date. Sneaky! I had seen posts that J&P was sold. We'll see how that changes things, I guess. This is a good test order for me, not too big. I've liked them as a vendor previously and would miss a small rose fix from them each year or two!...See MoreJ&P's "Ten Roses you must grow" - what do you think?
Comments (17)Thanks for your comments folks. I totally agree that the whole premise is flawed since there isn't even one rose that we all on GW would agree would fit in everyone's garden. We have too many climates, or conditions, or preferences, or color schemes, to make this kind of blanket statement anything but hype. I'm with Seil - I recognize this as hype and it's no more egregious lying than any other marketing. "Best minivan for the price, "Low calorie ice cream", "Tastes great, less filling"... they're all seriously flawed statements, and arguably something we wouldn't even want (if I indulge in ice cream, I want the full glory and decadent taste, not a pale substitute). As Michael commented, marketers inherently serve their own interests, which is why I got a kick out of road signs up to Yellowstone this year like "Cody cattlewomen urge you to eat more beef". No bones (pardon the pun) about why they're recommending that strategy, and the same is true of J&P. I guess my curiosity about this list was more - are these arguably "very good" roses and relatively desirable among the roses J&P sells, or just whatever they have extras of this year and are trying to market to us. No way to know the latter, of course, but it's encouraging to hear for instance that Radiant Perfume does actually have a fantastic scent and seem to be a good rose. I can accept that Moondance or Sedona could be good roses just not in my yard, and I'm still hoping the latter works out for me. I have heard the mixed reviews on Zephrine Drouhin and dithered about it for years, but there aren't many thornless climbers and I do have enough cold that she might be happy. I agree that the quality of J&P roses has declined so much lately that they're my last choice of a vendor if a given rose is available anywhere else, but there still are a few roses only they sell for now. Cynthia...See MoreKristine LeGault 8a pnw
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