What's Your Dryer, What's Your Dream Dryer? :)
Haname
6 years ago
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1st time buying washer/dryer, need your advice!
Comments (16)Since I own a W4840, I've read most everything I could find online about the "American" Mieles. In summary. it seems that the W4840 is reliable and people are happy with it, people aren't quite as happy with the W4800, and the dryers (especially the gas dryer?) are indeed troublesome. The early W4800 series had a door latch issue that required a retrofit. My W4840 from September 2008 already had the corrected latch. The W4800 series don't heat the water on Normal cycle, apparently to improve the reported energy consumption numbers. Not a problem for me, because the Custom cycle is functionally equivalent but does heat the water. Well, not exactly equivalent, because Normal does full spins between rinses, while Custom does pulse spins, but I can live with that. They both do a full spin between the wash and first rinse. Back in 2007, one member here was very worked up over the Normal cycle issue. IIRC, he also reported that the "water plus" setting on the configuration menu doesn't affect the Custom cycle. I haven't found a need to use "water plus" so this doesn't bother me. Regarding LG vs. Miele, I first bought an LG WM2455, returned it a few days later due to water temperature issues, and then ordered the Miele. I'll try to keep the story short: When I contemplated the switch to FL, LG seemed like the best choice, but I knew that hot water could be a problem, because I have a long hot water supply lag. Contacted LG customer service, who told me the WM2455 would assure the water temperature on all cycles and all temperature settings. And, mindful of "dumbed down" wash temperatures, I checked the manual online, and was satisfied with the temperatures listed for Warm and Hot. Well, when the machine arrived, I found that the drain water at the end of a hot wash could be barely warm (and, no, it wasn't because of a post-wash cooldown). Not only that, but a hot fill consisted of mixed hot and cold water, even though my hot water was barely hot for most of the fill. What's more, the printed manual with the machine omitted the box in the online manual that gave actual temps for Warm and Hot. Seeing my frustration with all this, my wife said, "Face it, they want all of us to do cold washes." I think she's mostly right, but fortunately there was still the option to get the Miele. So now I've got a machine with a choice of five evenly-spaced wash temperatures, 30degC, 40degC, 50degC, 60degC, and 70degC, all guaranteed by the heater. The way a lot of other machines seem to work, I could have a really hot wash (70degC or thereabouts, depending on brand), or a lukewarm wash, but nothing in between. Yes, the W4840 has lower heating power and lower max temperature compared to the 220V Mieles that are smaller, and hard to find new these days. Compared to other American-market machines of similar size, its heater power and max temperature are on par....See MorePicking a Washer Dryer- HELP - whats your favorite
Comments (6)I purchased our third laundry set yesterday. There is a lot that went into our decision but I will focus on a few. Our first set was a Maytag set, the second set was a Kenmore H4T set (We Absolutely loved this set for its performance but it was not too efficient - took too long to wash) and yesterday we purchased LG's latest model. These are the points that helped us make our decision: FLoader or TLoader? FLoader. Why? They are more efficient and washes cleaner to us. They use less water, soap and power. We have a septic system so we care about how much water goes into it. Service? The Whirlpools have fewer service calls but lower customer and review ratings than LG or Kenmore. They also compare to the #1 washer which is LG's mid steam capable washer. Kenmore is 3rd. I chose the LG as the service calls were a little (and I really mean just a tiny bit) more than Whirlpool's. Price? The Whirlpool set is the cheapest. They also have a deal on the bases; Buy 2 and get $200 back. The LG bases are the cheapest. Kenmore is most expensive. The latest set from LG is the most expensive BUT the WHITE is $200 less which makes it $100 more than the others in the pack. Other reasons we purchased the most expensive LG... The LG has a unique leveling system that quiets the machine when it spins at its record speed of >1300 RPM. The drum is 4.5 Cu which for us means less loads of dark and light colored clothes. The the Whirlpool 4.2 Cu. Steam while washing seems to produce whiter clothes in washers I have seen. The rollers make the clothes also seem to spin more in the wash cycle. I checked it out at a friends house. She has the mid model which is #1 right now. The LG wahshers works. Are you ready for our reason #1? The LG washers wash in 40% less time than the Whirlpool or the Kenmores PLUS uses less energy and water while running. BTW = this comparisson only compares Steam Infused Washing Systems. I hope this helps. I hope it washes as clean as the H4T set we had. That washer "Sanitized" our clothes and produced the best results I saw in a non-steam washer for white clothes BUT it took 1 hour and 10 minutes. It also vibrated the entire second floor of our tiny home....See MoreElectrolux 50 Washer & Dryer: Does Yours Do This?
Comments (4)Alex, thanks so much for the advice! The small-load/more suds thing does make sense because the first 2 loads I did were a pair of queen sheets and I did not get the sudsing. But all the other loads were smaller and even though I cut down the amount of detergent it was apparantly still too much. We have fairly soft public water here (3 grains/gal). Looks like I'm going to have to get the contractor guy to reinforce the flooring from underneath. When I bought the house I asked the home inspector that very question (because the previous owners added the laundry area and so it's on framing rather than a slab) and he assured me that the framing was "perfectly adequate" (prev owners had a one-piece Kenmore washer-dryer in that space). I did tell him that I was planning to replace the existing unit with a stacked pair too. Now I'm wondering whether the failure of the dispenser cups to properly drain, might also be a function of the spin cycle being too wobbly.... Thanks for the link to the Samsung issue. I have a feeling mine might be also related to the flooring/swing possibility now, because it isn't only small items that get tossed to the front: sheets and heavy items like jeans do too. It's pretty amazing to watch: I can load the drum perfectly evenly front to back, turn on the dryer, and in less than a half dozen revolutions the whole load is tumbling right up against the door and the rear half of the drum is entirely empty of clothing! And remains so throughout the entire cycle. Sheets are a real pain because everything quickly balls up into one big cocoon. I did two queen sheets last night and had to stop and separate them three times during the cycle because one sheet was entirely encased in a cocoon formed by the other sheet's layers. The drum is level when it is stationary but now I'm wondering if (due to floor flexing) it may be tilting toward the front as soon as the rotation starts. I have not yet run the washer and dryer at the same time, by the way. This is my first experience with a stacked configuration and I'm definitely NOT a fan. The washer is too low and the dryer flirting with being too high. Before this, I've always had them side by side, on pedestals and on a slab foundation. But there is nowhere else in this house to put the W&D other than in this bumped-out recessed area....See MoreWhat are your “must-haves” or “wish I had” for your dream home
Comments (49)so you would know that leverage increases risk. This is not true. A levered firm will be more risk than the same firm unlevered. However, that is different than saying that leverage increases risk for several reasons. Essentially, the overall risk of adding debt to a firm depends on the overall risk of the underlying assets. For example, $100 invested in Enron stock in September of 2000 was more risk than having $100 invested in Enron and $100 invested in Apple, even if your marginal debt is $100. Moreover, this is largely not true for highly liquid assets. Essentially, having $100 and owing $100 is the same financial position as having $0 and owing $0. Looking at our example, you have added $500,000 of debt, but you have also added $500,000 of highly liquid investments. you had a good run in the longest bull market in history but it could also have gone the other way and you could have lost your 500k investment and now the bank owns your home. This statement is incorrect for several reasons. First, I have been doing this for 25 years now so the recent bull market isn't really relevant. Since the 1929 collapse (when the modern market was introduced) there has not been a single down five year period, and only a couple of small down three year periods. I put money in the market in 2003 and after 2008 I was still in the black. Meanwhile my house wasn't liquid at all. So had I needed cash, I would have had it available, the credit freeze didn't bother me at all. Additionally, the equity market recovered much faster than housing, two years after the collapse the market was back at 95% of pre-crisis value. Next, properly diversified investment portfolios don't just go to zero. They may lose some value, but it isn't like one day you have money and the next day you don't. One day you have money and the next day you have a bit less. Finally, houses are riskier. It is much more likely that your house will decrease in value than it is your investment portfolio will decrease in value. Above you mentioned a scenario where I could lose my house. However, in reality it is much more likely to lose your house or health from a maintenance issue. The house that is across from one my rentals has a foundation problem, the owner who purchased it in January of 2011 for $210,000 cash just sold it for $130,000 in November of 2018. Had he financed $168,000 and invested that amount he would have had $401,000 in investments and maybe fixed the house instead of giving it away because he can't afford the $80,000 to repair the house....See More
georgect
6 years agoElectrolux WaveTouch is my current dryer. The set just turned two years old.
It has reverse tumble but only in the Cool Down portion of the cycle (called Perfect Tumble) and when you use the Wrinkle Release (which tumbles without heat in a clockwise direction for 5 minutes then counter clockwise for five minutes for a total for 45 minutes). This is after the Cool Down is done.
You can also add Extended Tumble in conjunction with Wrinkle Release.
Extended Tumble extends the tumbling by 10 or 30 minutes or 1, 2 or 3 hours with no heat.
It also has Shrink Guard which I use. It reduces the initial drying temperature and gradually lowers the trying temperature during the cycle.
I also use the Eco Friendly option which reduces the drying temperature a few degrees.
I never use High Heat. I use Med-High or lower for all drying.
Other options:
Add Steam: this just sprays a mist of water just before the Cool Down.
Sanitize: this uses high heat and extended drying time to kill 99.9% of bacteria. (NSF certified P154)
Damp Alert: A chime will sound when the load has reached the Damp Dry dryness level for you to remove items you don't want fully dry.
Allergen: This option reduces allergens (not recommended for items prone to heat damage).
Line Dry: Select this option to simulate hanging your laundry in a summer breeze combined with the wrinkle-releasing benefits of tumble action. Since drying times are calculated with the dryer’s automatic moisture sensors and heat is radically reduced or eliminated, cycle time will be lengthened. As a result, depending on moisture content of load, overall energy consumption
decreases.Anti Static: This injects steam into the clothing just before cycle completion to reduce static.
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