I'm afraid I don't know the PH, but it is city water that goes through reverse osmosis. I think it's on the alkaline side. Does that make a difference? Both of these roses are grafted on Dr. Huey. Lisa

Pink Rose, and other helpful souls, This post prompted me to investigate Princess Charlene de Monaco. I discovered how beautiful she is, and looks surprisingly like Evelyn to me....maybe not as many petals. I have an idea. I am fed up with my Evelyn after five years of coping with her thin long, extremely weak canes and laterals. Her flowers were profuse, large, and fragrant, attributes many others did not experience besides fragrance. However, she never put on much size, bush wise. She never presented her flowers for me to see, always facing the ground and bending to about a foot above it, obscured by the bushes in front of her. She's at the back of my bed, and it looks like there is a hole in the bed with a puny bush in it. I am not growing roses for my turtles to enjoy! She's getting the shovel this spring, just as soon as the ground defrosts. Do you think PCdM would make a satisfactory replacement for Evelyn? If her flowers are held upright, and the bush maxes out at 4-5' for me here in W. PA, I would give her a try. I'm not trying to make PCdM into Evelyn, but a similar looking, fragrant bloom that is held upright is what I need. What do you think, yes? Moses

I did not have any luck my first scroll through but I pulled up a thread for you . https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/3901490/princess-charlene-of-monaco-super-fragrant-rosy-surprise I was hoping I wild see a figurine or nearby plant as a marker but no luck ! I did a horrible job last year . Oyyyyy. Next year I may put markers even though I don’t love the look and I do remember them by name as a whole , it stinks I can’t share so many photos! Or maybe my iPhone will become super smart and sort them for me ?! If it can track everything else I do , surely it can know my rose names too ;)

Hi Sultry, I hope they grow crazy and bloom a lot :) Moses I have realized I prefer the roses planted in groups when I can find the space. I would love to be able to smell them when I first get out of my car. My only concern is finding the proper planting space. I have not been able to see very mature specimens of this rose to figure out if it stays skinny. I am planting them 2 feet apart and I hope it isn’t too crowded.