No clue but I ordered one. Its due here the beginning of Feb. After seeing how much it resembled Abe Darby and it being fragrant, it was a must have lol. I dont mind them being tall as long as they bloom well etc. If you get one, we can compare notes.

I hope someone can chime in here and let us know how it does in the south.

I talked to Nelsons ,they may have it on Fortuniana this spring . Can't decide whether to buy it or not . I get tired of whacking down the tall roses after every flush . prefer 5 ft bushy shape.

Yes to all 3 questions.

I’m growing 2 as climbers against a fence and they keep up with real climbers. Mine need a lot of water and didn’t like the dry heat here at first, but were very disease resistant. Yes they fade in the sun here, but not totally white. Their fragrance is so wonderful tho that I thought they were worth the extra work to treat them like little divas. I shaded them at first, then gave them silicon to see if that helped with their heat resistance and it did wonders. They still like their extra water though.

I have a few of these in my garden, picked up a few at my local nursery two years ago. It does grow tall down here in SoFlo, but not as tall as my Mister Lincoln or Frances Meilland in my garden, but it does get tall. The flower didn't fade much for me, but it was and continues to be on the stingy side in rose production. I would suggest it simply because it is so healthy in our climate.

BTW - I'm sure I saw it on the bud&bloom nursery list that's out right now, so you can probably get one if you pass by Nelsons in person on Saturday morning...but you didn't hear that from me lol ;-)

-Adrian.

Cori, yours are so beautiful! Im setting up a bed of all pinks and peaches. I stuck my Abe Darby in the ground yesterday. I had it in a pot but it had grown through the pot and had a huge root in the ground going on about 8feet! Might as well put all the Austins in the ground here since they just grow through the pots anyways lol. When I get PCdM, I will stick it in with all the other pinks.

~Sjn

Cori Ann

your plant looks so good ! but I only have space in the HT bed because I want to s/p some poor performers . Maybe I will put it in a tomato cage .

How I feel when I stumble into a Cali/Florida thread. lol

Lol

Can I ask where people have bought PCDM? I’ve been trying to find it online but haven’t had an easy time finding it. I did find it on one website (I forget which one), but I’d just like to know about other options as well. I want to buy it ASAP as I’m going to plant it in dedication to my mom (named Charlene), and is like for her to see it this spring/summer

Hi Kali. I bought mine locally at Alden Lane Nursery (Northern CA), but you can get it online at Edmunds. https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/24101/Princess+Charlene+De+Monaco+Hybrid+Tea

I think they have it at White Flower Farm. I got one bare root from them last year (grafted -- not sure what root stock it is on).

Edmunds has it and a lot of other pretty ones like Peach Swirl , Eden Pretty in Pink, Quick Silver etc. They have free ship if your order is $100 or more.

Since I'm pruning and defoliating it today, here’s a photo showing the “bones” of Princess Charlene de Monaco on the right. Raspberry Cream Twirl (an actual climber) on the left. Look at those long, thick canes of PCdM. Please ignore the mess I haven’t cleaned up from today’s pruning frenzy yet.

Wow Cori Ann that looks awesome! I have been trying to research how to properly prune my Raspberry CT that is now about a 1.5 years old. Do you always cut back all the laterals and let them all come back every year?

Thanks for that photo, Cori Ann. I just cut my Raspberry Cream Twirl back yesterday. It got huge. You did a really good job pruning yours.

Wow, I really didn't expect PCdM would get that big. I may have to find a trellis or something for it. I don't have any fences except on one side because we r on 4 acres and a lot of the property has trees and shade. I put up some 10ft wire fence pieces between t-posts to espalier some roses. I might have to put up some more, cuz I'm kinda running out of trellises too. DH just got me one w 4 sides on it for xmas but I already have quicksilvers for 3 of the sides and a huge Crepuscle on the other one...hmmm.

Thanks.

Daniela I think if we didn’t cut back laterals in my climate roses would Just keep growing and growing and growing, possibly taking over the world.

Keep in mind I’m purposely growing it as a climber because I knew it would get tall here, but I bet you could cultivate it to just be a big, full rosebush. Maybe?

Pink Rose, and other helpful souls,

This post prompted me to investigate Princess Charlene de Monaco. I discovered how beautiful she is, and looks surprisingly like Evelyn to me....maybe not as many petals.

I have an idea.

I am fed up with my Evelyn after five years of coping with her thin long, extremely weak canes and laterals. Her flowers were profuse, large, and fragrant, attributes many others did not experience besides fragrance.

However, she never put on much size, bush wise. She never presented her flowers for me to see, always facing the ground and bending to about a foot above it, obscured by the bushes in front of her. She's at the back of my bed, and it looks like there is a hole in the bed with a puny bush in it. I am not growing roses for my turtles to enjoy!

She's getting the shovel this spring, just as soon as the ground defrosts.

Do you think PCdM would make a satisfactory replacement for Evelyn?

If her flowers are held upright, and the bush maxes out at 4-5' for me here in W. PA, I would give her a try.

I'm not trying to make PCdM into Evelyn, but a similar looking, fragrant bloom that is held upright is what I need.

What do you think, yes?

Moses

Moses I don’t have Evelyn so hopefully someone else will have some input.

It does get tall here wuithout winter, and very generous rose.

Mose: Princess Charlene de Monaco holds her flowers up right, very good looking, even in rain.

Mose, I recently ordered some PCdM to have some more Evelyn-like roses with strong fragrance so fingers crossed.

I see that there is free shipping at Edmonds, which I don't think I received unfortunately ordering only a few weeks ago, darn.

I bought a PCDM this year but I'm not sure where to put it. 
For those who grow it in California, do you think putting it in a pot the first year until I see how it does with Sacramento Heat will work?
Carla in Sac

Hi everyone! I live in Central Florida and my PCOM is about 9ft tall right now but I would like it shorter because the wind affects it a lot.

I cut it to 1 foot tall in the winter, but it grew to about 6 feet in March, when I harvested roses (i cut about about 2 feet). The plant was still a decent 4 ft tall.

Now in May, the stems almost reach the roof of the house. the new stems are about 5 feet tall, growing from the 4 feet tall stems I left after harvesting them in March, so from the ground, they are about 9 feet tall. I read about training PCOM on a trellis but I don’t know how to do it with a hybrid rose. How do I keep it short, at max 6 feet total?

Thanks for your tips and suggestions!