Rethinking drip irrigation
Rosefolly
7 years ago
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Rosefolly
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Comments (15)AM, Yes most controllers are not as flexible as you would like. The more money the more flexibility. I am not even aware of a 6 program controller. Someone may know. What was the old one that you used? I just need to gather more information from you to make an informed suggestion. I need to know your flow rate of your water source. Is your system off a outdoor house faucet or the mainline from your house before your house pressure regulator? If a hose faucet, then fill a five-gallon bucket and time how long to fill. Give us the time to fill 5-gallons. Next is the drip ones, how long or how many and what spacing and the type of drip lines or emitters? How many sprinklers and what Brand/type for each zone? What I am looking for is flow rates of drip tape or emitters to calculate the water demand for each zone. This is like a design in reverse which is a water audit. If you don't have all the info give me as much as you can. Finally, what is your water pressure? Buy an inexpensive pressure gauge that fits on your faucet from hardware store. When I can tell what zone uses what amount of what, then you can tell what zones can run simultaneously and the ones that need extra time can be at a later time and duration. You might try buying another Controller and hook three zone to one and 3 zone to another for the 6 programs you need. JMHO Aloha...See MoreMy tomatoes: drip irrigation, companion plants, beneficial insect
Comments (4)@ Amisoup: Tx for the nice words. IâÂÂm happy that my set up, serves you as inspiration. @ garf: Yes, I spent some time on that. Last year I built the trellis structure, this year the drip irrigation⦠You spend VERY little time if you plan THOROUGHLY: projectâÂÂs design, list of necessary materials, order of operations⦠Start doing things in early spring, and in the early morning. Avoid working between 2 and 4 pm. I wear hat, long sleeve cotton t-shirt, garden boots, nitrile gloves, working glovesâ¦...See MoreDrip Line Irrigation
Comments (17)Mainly what I want to accomplish with this irrigation system is to get the young plants established; " pushing repeat bloomers for optimal performance" just does not exist for me. I don't think any living thing should be obliged to "perform"; the concept is alien to my way of thinking. But I am in the process of trying to get a very young garden established: my land has only been worked-and only by myself-for a mere 20-some years. Global warming and increasing age on my own part are making my work ever-more challenging. Back when I first started this project, more than 20 years ago,I could get away with only watering roses in their first year out in the garden, but the weather (for one thing) has become far too inclement in recent years for this to be feasible any more. It's too hot, all of a sudden, two years of horrid drought...the weather pattern is completely fuççted- up, neither I, nor the plants, know what to do. Perhaps I may have to renounce even trying for floribundas in my garden. Constant blooming is totally off of my table- when it's 40 degrees Celsius , who in heck wants to be outside in their garden? (and mine is not around my home-it's a wild one, out in the woods, 20 minutes drive from my house). But it is worth a try, and if the floribundas do indeed sadly fail, the other young ones on the drip system -and I, the over-worked gardener-among-other-things,will probably benefit. Besides, I'm still snickering to myself about that ignorant "man-splainer" at the store. There are lots of videos on Youtube that address drip irrigation from rain-water-harvesting tanks! not to mention that just driving around on the Prato/Florence plain, you see lots of veggie gardens (orti) with their rain-harvesting tanks raised up on structures to render gravity pressure totally viable .It's highly amusing to consider that one is expected to take advice from a guy that doesn't even see the world around him, lol!...See MoreCan we discuss drip irrigation some more please?
Comments (14)Thank you both so much! Just hearing about others' experiences is very, very helpful. Paul-your comment really focuses my thoughts on my plans to upgrade ,and just how much I intend to invest here. Now, I must remind both of you that I have many roses that carry on just fine in drought with NO additional water. But these are all established roses , that I planted back when our climate was still normal. Back then, I only watered a new implant for it's first summer out in my garden , exactly like Melissa. In recent years, this method seems to be failing: the sun is just too intense, the temperatures too high for weeks and weeks on end,and rain in the summer has become too rare. However I still have a vast pot-ghetto, and empty places where roses could go, plus I want to plant more trees to provide much-needed shade. Last fall I planted out about 40 things-roses, trees, and clematis. I'm also hand-watering most of the things I put out in 2021, since it was such an awful year and they are clearly still struggling, so the total that I hand-water is about 73 plants. It takes me about 6 hours or so each week, divided into two sessions per week (one of 2hours, the other of 4 hours) in order to hand-water them all, and it is exhausting. What's more, I can only begin to work once the sun is low, so I wind up getting done only around 11PM, then I still have to go home, shower, and eat...it's too much. I need help. My goal with a drip system is not to keep plants irrigated thoroughly for many, many years; merely to enable them get established. What I think has happened is that with the recent climate change, the rootstock dies off too soon, but the plant does have enough vigour left and goes own-root. But as an own-root, it needs to recieve regular watering for several years before it can carry on without coddling. Since hand-watering is so exhausting, I have the tendancy to stop doing it as soon as some autumn rain begins to arrive,but I don't think this is adequate any more for establishing new plants An automatic system would help to prevent me from wimping out like this. The sun is lower in fall, less intense, the days are shorter, and if we're lucky, it will start to rain. I'm figuring that plants that I put out in Autumn 2021 will be for the most part fine with only drip. Probably even some-maybe most?- of those I put out in Fall 2022 would be ok, too, especially since I'll be adding a few new implants in the areas of the garden where these are located, and these new guys that I hope to put out in Fall 2023 WOULD be recieving hand watering. And this year I want to limit myself to only about 20 new implants, so by summer of 2024, hopefully I'd only have to hand-water about 30-35 plants -HALF of what I'm doing this year. Since I've just begun this project, I don't know for how many years I'd need the assistence of drip irrigation. So I'll be keeping my up-grades pretty modest until I learn more. Decidedly emitters are off the table-thank you both for helping me with that. Now, I looked at the Netafim site. Supposedly they have hoses that are adapted to sloping land ("autocompensanti").These -supposedly- can be actually buried in the soil ,and are constucted to resist being penetrated by roots and even keep themselves clean. Well, that sounds like a pretty tall order to me, but...??? They have hoses that can emit around 2 litrs per hour. Fact is, I will have to be there in person to turn on the faucets (nope, Sheila, no slaves here, lol). so if I could use buried hoses I wouldn't have to wait until 7PM to start watering since evaporation wouldn't be an issue. If I do decide it's worth the investment, I can contact them and ask for advice. Well, in any case, merely turning on a faucet is one thing. Scrambling about in the dark,buggy heat on your hands and knees under thorny canes and low-hanging shade cloth in order to move your hose from one plant to another is quite another! Once again, many, many thanks! best wishes, Eileen...See Morenoseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
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