I've been thinking they'd stop selling the 70. Though one wonders if they're planning on coming out with a 717. I'd guess it would depend on how many 70s they sold relative to the number of 60s.

There's a rebate of $100 on 417/517/617 pairs though July 9 through some retailers.

I know George was told they would be selling the 60 and 70 Series along with the new 4/5/6 Series...but I KNEW Electrolux would not and could not keep producing the older machines alongside the new ones. While the 60 and 70 units were and are very good, they have never really been big sellers.

If you ask me, they really didn't advertise them right. There was only that Kelly Ripa commercial that only aired for a few months. I've yet to see any advertising on the new machines.

If one wants to scroll back to my post, this is just what I was finding out over two weeks ago...something is going on with the Electrolux production line.

still hoping that the new 617 will be a reason to purchase the newer machines and be an improvement over the Wave Touch models.. So far I do not see it.

I am ready to purchase the best that Electrolux or anyone else can offer, however, the proof of being superior is not there.. Still waiting....

Interesting. Sears had all the new ones, except the compact machines. Hhgregg had only the compact and said they were still waiting on the other machines.

Our 617 just arrived.....with a big old dent in the side. Looks like someone missed the pallet with their forklift and poked through the box into the washer instead. Abt is sending out a new one but now I have to wait another 10 days for it to arrive :-(

aporthole....my first TWO 70 Series were damaged by a Forklift loading the unit for delivery. TWO Electrolux units. I am SO sorry this happened to you too!! This must stop!

I'm sorry. Hope you get the new one quickly. I brought dh to a dealer a friend recommended, and they had the Speed queen right next to the 60 series (beautiful stainless) and they had all the newer machines. They look smaller, but I didn't check with a measure.

I got a call from Abt after live chatting with them to get the replacement. They offered us a $200 refund to keep the damaged one (as long as nothing was wrong mechanically and it is just cosmetic damage). They sold out of their initial stock of 617s and are awaiting new stock. Rather than wait on back-order plus another 10 days shipping time, we decided to just take the $200 refund and keep the dented one. There are no mechanical components behind the area of the dent.

We hooked it up and it's working on its maiden load as I type.

It is a load of heavily soiled kid clothes. My 7yo and 4yo like to run around outside wearing socks but no shoes so we have really dirty socks from them, dirty baseball pants, and my 13-month-old's clothes that have lots of food stains (he likes to self-feed sans bib much of the time). I selected Normal cycle (hot temp, heavy soil, high spin) with added options of StainSoak (pre-wash), PerfectSteam, extra rinse, wrinkle release (final gentle tumble to un-plaster clothes from drum). Detergent is a small amount of All Free Clear Plus+ liquid and a small amount of Clorox2 liquid stain remover.

There is almost no visible water at the bottom of the drum that I can see with the clothes tumbling in the main wash cycle. I know that it is meant to function with much less water, but we'll see what that means as far as cleaning. If the clothes come out clean with as little water as it seems to be using, I'll be happy.

I know there was some debate as to whether the washer has an interior light. It does :-)

Clothes came out clean. Happy mama here.

@aporthole...how long was that cycle?

georgect, with all the added options (StainSoak, steam cycle, extra rinse, wrinkle release) it was 3 hours (188 minutes if I recall correctly).

Holy smokes that's a long cycle.

3 hours?! OMG!!!! My washer will do a 200F wash with 3 DEEP water rinses in a little over one hour!! Dang, that is insane long!!!

Now that's a lot of tumbling :-)

I wouldn't use that combination too much, it's hard on clothing.

I thought part of that was soak time??

Hi guys, super new here, just joined. My LG washer of about 4-5 years, just took a dump on me. I need a new washer, one that is good and reliable. So I stumbled upon this thread and saw these new Electrolux washers, never even heard of them. Can you guys recommend me a nice good reliable washer, one that won't give me problems. Thanks a lot!

-Nat

@sparky823...I don't now about the new machine but the manual says "Stain Soak is similar to Stain Treat II which uses agitation with recirculating pump for up to 20 minutes) so it's really not a soak but more like a Pre-Wash. The clothes don't sit too much and are tumbled.

I was thinking about this new Electrolux front load or the Speed Queen AWN432S

@snayton7

Super Reliable...Miele & Speed Queen but the most expensive.

Electrolux has been around about as long as Whirlpool (founded 1919) just not initially sold here in the the USA but many of their other brands have been sold here. They are the parent company of Frigidaire.

The History of ELECTROLUX

Electrolux should be on par with Whirlpool, LG etc. on reliability.

@georgect

Well, my LG was a front loader and I guess it wasn't built to last, lol. This Electrolux

EFLS617STT looks nice, is a front loader and HHGregg has $150 instant rebate if I buy it now, comes out to $949 shipped.

But the Speed Queen I was looking at, is a top loader but the reviews have been awesome on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Queen-AWN432S-Stainless-Automatic/dp/B002VFF42G/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

So, I'm pretty stumped on what to get.

@snayton7...depends on what you want.

Front loader will hold way more items. Uses less water. Uses less detergents/bleach/softener etc. Spins faster. Better at washing comforters (bulky items).

Top loaders uses way more water. May rinse better because of deep water rinsing. Spin speed 473/710 RPM, smaller capacity,

I like the Electrolux because you can add clothes at any time during the cycle you don't get locked out (unless you use the Sanitary or Allergen cycle, water too hot for safety so it stays locked until cooled).

I did a Normal cycle (medium soil) plus extra rinse and wrinkle release and the full cycle time was 62 minutes. I haven't tried the 15-minute fast wash yet. I don't plan to normally use all the extra add-ons like StainSoak and Perfect Steam but I wanted to see what kind of results they'd give on our heavily soiled kid clothes.

Snayton7, if you go with the new Electrolux, you can get it cheaper from Abt. They have it for $899 plus $50 off with code "MEMDAY16". If you sign-up for and click through Ebates first you can get an extra 4% cash back right now (normally 2%). Abt also has the option to add on a full 5 year SquareTrade warranty for only $99 ($199 for same coverage from hhgregg). No tax in most states (IL, IN, MI, WI pay tax), free shipping.

@aporthole thanks a lot for the info. What are your thoughts on the washer so far? I'm going from a front loader LG to this. I just want to know I'm making the right decision before I pull the trigger. I need to buy a washer by the end of today.

@aporthole and did you get the pedestal?

No, I'm anti-pedestal. Being a short girl, I don't want to have laundry cabinets mounted any higher than I have to. Squatting down to load/unload is good for me anyways :-)

I went back and forth between the LG WM4270 from Costco, the Electrolux IQ-Touch 60, and the Electrolux 617. I think any of them would have been a good choice. My defunct washer was a lower end Amana front loader (lasted not quite 7 years). The new one is a big upgrade and so far I really like it. I'm not too picky, I just want clean clothes, water efficiency, and something reliable with the least potential for premature break-down.

@aporthole I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the one with the smart boost.

I am getting rid of my 60's series washer for these reasons. I am in Florida and laundry area is in the garage not climate controlled. When humid the buttons stick and it is not due to anything on the panel, I keep it clean. The detergent dispenser still sticks after being replaced twice and one new port for the drawer. Pushing the button to release drawer takes a specific touch to get it to open. I also dislike the slow portion of the wash cycles as some loads ball up and beat the drum when the whole load drops on its rotation, one blanket I have is a nightmare to wash (not bulky) just heavy cotton. Actually had that blanket washing last week and I washed it with a few other items (light fleece throws) and it balled up so bad in the wash slow tumble portion that the washer just quit turning (no error, display said washing), I cancelled the cycle and started it again and it picked up where left off. Also does the new washers dispenser latch or just slides in and out?

A video would be cool from anyone who has one, mine will be here this week and I am hoping all the pains of the 60 series is gone. I am keeping my 50 series dryer for now.

Mark, the dispenser drawer does not latch. It just slides in/out and can be left open/closed as much or as little as desired when the machine isn't running.

I'm waffling, too. I was planning on going with the 70 but now thinking about the 617.

I live in CA: we get lots of brownie points with the planning department for using low water / low energy appliances (which helps us get a pass on some things we struggle with, like recycled materials.)

I don't mind the longer cycle. I guess it's not great that it might beat up the clothes more.

Would be nice to know where in the cycle it is. That I regret. But now that I think about it, I guess I've lived w/o that for a long time.

Honestly, I'm obsessive about plenty of things but not so much about the W/D.

So the dispenser issue fixed, can you keep the washer door open a bit without rigging it ?

Mark, yes, the door and dispenser drawer can be open as much or as little as desired, no rigging involved.

Thanks aporthole! Drawer issue fixed, door issue fixed, buttons issue fixed. I should be very happy with this unit then. Will miss one thing from the 60 series...a real prewash and spin before wash cycle.

Hello, fairly sure I will get the 60 series instead of new 617 because water is my primary concern, second is service after sale.

Raised in France with Miele, currently have the KM Oasis from 2006 which is acting up, adding 30 min of humming and sprinkling before it starts any cycle. I ran all the diags, nothing came up and I will not spend $300+ for a new board. That would be my 2nd one.

Researched Speed Queen TL, too small for king size bedding and monthly tons of pets pads, beds, blankets, not a lot of pet hair.

Considered LG WM3370 from last year, still has water plus option for wash and rinse, and I read that permanent press cycle gets extra water. But, I do remember Goldstar... When life was not so good.

Bad repair experiences with A&E and GE, so selected local with 6 locations, own servicemen and happily they carry Electrolux. Family business decades old.

Three questions:

$1400 including $200 Rebate for EIFLS60LT and dryer. Seems a fair price?

Read specs, manuals, reviews and still not sure of best cycle for king size blankets, or thin comforter.

Is water level fix for all cycles or it is based on weight of items in tub like the LG, except for a couple of cycles? Forgot to ask salesman.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. Lisa

@katabalu49...

You're getting each machine for $700 that's pretty darn good. I don't even see those prices on Amazon.

I believe Electrolux suggests the Heavy Duty cycle for "bulky" items (I think Larsi contacted Electrolux about this and even they said it could have or should have been called "Bulkly/Bedding" cycle). This is the cycle I use for my bedding. It does a short slow tumble at the beginning of the cycle but a longer fast tumble through the rest of it.

About the Electrolux and water usage, it doesn't weigh or "sense" the load.

It has a set water level. When it starts the cycle it will first drain then start filling.

The filling is constant, while the re-circulation pump turns on and off, as the clothes start soaking up the water.

When the machine thinks it's done filling, it continues to tumble the clothes and spray the load from the re-circulation pump. When the re-circulation pulls the water from the sump, lowering the water level, it adds more water. It keeps topping off the drum water level until the clothes are totally saturated and the tub water level has been satisfied and is no longer being depleted.

Great info, thank you so much! I spent hours reading the Garden Web forums years ago and learned a lot about many subjects, had to rejoined because I could not remember my signin.

I will try to go and order wednesday, rebate is good thru saturday the 4th.

Still not sure about buying an extra plan from store, Electrolux has that extended warranty: 3 years on parts only and the salesman would not tell me the cost of a 3 or 5 year plan, supposedly it depends on the cost of the machines.

Amusing observation - In march I looked at SQ top loader, last 2 weeks went to Sears, Home Depot, Lowes, Best Buy, 3 locals. Most salesmen told me they had 5 kids and own the exact washer I was researching. Must be a sales tip from the sales seminar they all attended.

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I tried to go look at these today and no one had anything from Electrolux. What the heck? Will try hhgreg tomorrow but then I'm out of ideas. Tried best buy, Lowe's. HD. Bray & scarf. I'm in Baltimore. Ideas?

Local Electrolux dealers, Sears and online stores were the first to get them but I noticed that hhgregg has them on their site now.. They may not have them on the floor.. Best you check with them before making the trip.. The Elux website has a "where to buy" locator that usually shows your local dealers who should have them, rather than the big box stores.. Good Luck, I am really pleased with my new 617 w/d.

Funny, I checked and it listed a few a of the stores

I went to. They had no electrolux products at all on display. One said the don't carry foreign brands, waiting until they works the bugs out. Lol.

I couldn't find anywhere that had them on the floor, even in large cities. I had to just look at them online, check with everyone here & read online reviews, I finally just paid my $$ & took my chances. Luckily it seemed to work out, I love my new Electrolux set.

I was fortunate enough to see the 617 which our local mega dealer has on the floor. I am in NE Ohio.

This machine certainly has eye catching appeal, and I don't get why no big box retailer dedicates floor space or stocks locally. Without seeing, touching, comparing, few buyers will purchase sight unseen.

IMO the 70 series was feature laden with specialty cycles and stain treat options and a fantastic 3 slot custom memory. I get the impression Lux chucked the otherwise difficult to navigate interface of the 70 series, simplfied popular options, and gave it an overhaul chic appeal! It appears to be a very well built machine and drum looks to be identical to the 70 series.

I am not so much sold on the detergent pre-mixing tank, especially if your a powered detergent or pod user. My concern is does the machine fill through the tank and effectively flush between uses, or is there a potential to have crud residue, and stench built up? Its difficult to differentiate between detergent and water in the sump, and sprayed on the load during fill as many machines do. The only advantage I see to the Lux system is perhaps a more complete mixing of detergent and water applied to the load uniformly. You could always bypass it and add product directly to the drum.

My only other peeve is the display is not back lit and difficult to see, but not a deal breaker by any means. My overhaul impression is this machine is a winner and will have no problem compeating, that is providing the retailers allocate floorspace. It offers top tier features and P172 certificaton, at a price point (899.00) that is several hundred dollars less than the competion. I will look forward to actual usage reports.

I finally found them today at hhgreg. They had the 517 and 617 models. Mibe will be stacked and I think the display on the 617 seemed easier to read.

Congratulations..so glad you finally found them. They are worth the search!

My new Electrolux front loader will not dissolve the detergent. Any ideas?

How do you balance it? It shakes like crazy

Fran, what kind of detergent are you using? Which wash settings and temperature? Did you remove the liquid-only insert from the detergent drawer?

You can adjust the leveling legs if all the legs aren't resting firmly on the floor. It does vibrate quite a bit on the final spin cycle with the higher spin settings.