Please Help Me w/ Eastern Redbud

8 years ago

Hello kind professionals,

Hope everyone is having a nice evening/morning. In early Spring of this year I started an Eastern Redbud from seed and it is doing remarkably well as far as I can tell. Lots of growth and HUGE leaves.

My question is.... I am wondering if I should prune the leave on the new seedling? or just leave it alone? Also considering the size of the tree and the pot it is in when is the best time to transplant to a bigger pot. Shall I double the size of the pot? Shall I keep the plant indoors through the upcoming winter? I live in Northeast Pennsylvania.

I took a leaf from the tree in my yard that I got the seed from to start the baby plant and I very curious as to why the leaves on the baby plant are 3 times the size of the parent? Please see attachments.

Any help with my many questions is greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time!

Shawn....here in Philadelphia

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brandon7 TN_zone7

8 years ago

"Weather it is a Redbud or not..."

chances of it being a redbud = 0.0000000000000000000000000000000%

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plumstupid
8 years ago
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I think a weed got in your pot. Look up velvet leaf and see if that's what's growing in your pot. Don't feel bad or embarrassed if I'm right at least you got practice growing something and it looks really healthy.
Jean
8 years ago
Not velvet leaf- those leaves are alternate.

Probably Empress tree - Paulownia . If so, leaf stems should be hollow.
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Hi Everyone, First thank you for your comments and helpfulness. I have numerous pictures but at the present moment, I am uncertain as to how to post them...smiles. I have clipped a few edges to see if there were any green left to them and from the tips I would say no. As mentioned, right now, these two large branches do not have any flowers on them and look dead in appearance. If fact, I just spoke to a gentleman who sold me the tree a few years back and he was saying that the winters here in Illinois have been very bad on the Redbuds in fact to the point of him no longer carrying them due to all the one year guarantees he had lost. Smiles. This tree only has about 6 main branches and if I cut out the two, I have a feeling, it may then be best to cut the whole tree out given that it is not that big and all the diseases this tree is suseptible to. Right now, I am thinking of possibly a Kousa Dogwood given that I do not want something too large given that it will be situated next to a sidewalk. I would like something with decorative flowering and the possibly a maroon leaf during the year. Again, I am in Illinois. Thanks, MEtten
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plumstupid
8 years ago
Nice catch Jean. Thanks for clearing that up.
Toronado3800 Zone 6 St Louis
8 years ago
We have redbuds popping up all over the place here. The ones in the walnut row are in the shade and can really have big foliage.

The vein structure on the plant in your pot looks wrong for redbud I agree.

Fall is the next best time to transplant. If its been living in your house I'd start keeping it on the porch or some place a little shady and sheltered later this month when the heat breaks then plant, October I guess.
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
8 years ago
Really healthy Paulownia!
ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
8 years ago
see link .. invasive in many areas ...

which might answer how and why it got in your pot ...

destroy it if its invasive in your area ...

and harvest some new seed this fall and try again ...

but if you have a tree in your yard.. i am surprised you cant find volunteers without messing with the seed.. unless that is the whole point.. growing your own from seed ...

i have a couple hundred seedlings around the yard ... the 5 acres ...

neither are houseplants.. i hope you just brought it in for pix...

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Paulownia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=Paulownia+invasive
mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
8 years ago
In reference to squirrels as gardeners, I used to end up with pots and pots of cherry trees. They squirrels would pull out the plant I wanted to grow, and replace it with cherry pits. Does Paulownia have buryable seed?
tlbean2004
8 years ago
Weather it is a Redbud or not, why do you feel you need to prune any of the leaves off?
Toronado3800 Zone 6 St Louis
8 years ago
If it is an empress tree, beware! Not a friendly thing to plant. Like having neighbors plant a bamboo fence.
Philadelphia1
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8 years ago
Don't I feel stupid now! Babying a weed for the last couple of months. Oh well, back to the drawing board. A very nice lady (horticulturalist from Penn State University) has also concluded that the "weed" is a Paulownia. At first, she too suspected it was a velvet leaf.

And wow, what a wealth of information you folks have been. Thanks for taking time in your day to help me out by responding.

Like I mentioned, I have a tree in my yard with seed pods on it, is it to early to try to germinate them? Shall I wait till the fall? Any tips or advice? Would it be easier to take a cutting and try from there with rooting powder?

I would like to thank each and everyone of you for your time and let you know its greatly appreciated!

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